What If Colleges Used Only Test Scores to Fill Campuses?

That’s definitely not the context to which I was speaking but you do you.

 

Whites do better at test created by whites . . . .. . wow. . . . who would have thunk it

Rocket River

 

Asians do even better on tests that you say are made by whites.

 

Good for Asians.

Also does not disprove the original comment.

 

What does a non-white made test look like? Are they doing a different kind of reading and math?

 

In Indiana here we actually have a system where school gets a base budget every year based on student enrollment, then schools with more disadvantaged students get an additional funding. There is always bickering on how the formulas for these funding should be set, and it changes all every few years.

The higher income school district get around this issue by creating additional property tax using referendums. At the end of the day, school performs about the same as they always do, before funding formulas.

 

Still waiting for someone to show me what a non white test would look like. Give me some sample questions and curricula.

 

As a black man ive never bought that argument. I understand it but I've never thought it to be valid. Ive seen examples of questions that might have a culture but at best even if you accept that there may be at most a couple of questions imo

 

For all those screaming white privilege and talking about racing with a 5 yard head start I would suggest reading or listening to Thomas Sowell. The problem in black communities is not the quality of education but the single parent families. Education starts in the home. If you want a quality education it starts by repairing the family.

In 1960 only 22% black families were single parent families. In 2019 the number of single parent black families is closer to 65%. That is the problem you need to fix first to have any success with education.

 

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The flaw in your argument is that black under performance is not a uniquely domestic phenomenon. It's a global phenomenon.

PGabs is 100% right in that the lack of 2 parent families in the black community, the lack of family values, and the lack of a focus on education are the primary culprits in black under performance. Anyone in this country who gets an education, possesses good communication skills (mine are phenomenal), and looks clean can succeed.

GOOD DAY

 

I meant there will never be a completely level playing ground. We as a society should strive to minimize inequality but people who think complete parity is possible are nuts.

 

bingo

 

It is not.

As I've mentioned before, this whole thread is based on the wrong premise.

Certain elite schools just don't put as much weight into SAT scores as some people perceive they do. It really is that simple and they have a lot of good reason as to why that is.

 

I actually agree that scores are not the only thing to consider. You could have a robotic personality and score perfectly but is that a future leader? Probably not.

 

And how we have it set up is fine for me. Some schools to put more weight on SATs, some schools do not.

It feels like everyone is trying to tell certain schools who they should admit.

 

I don't know your political persuasion but you have hinted at a common Republican slogan which is that they favor equality of opportunity and Democrats favor equality of outcome. Of course this slogan is total garbage. In reality, Democrats are about actual equality of opportunity because that results in a more equal outcome for all children. Republicans don't want a more equal outcome and this is why they push exclusionary solutions like vouchers. Essentially they take the children whose parents are most involved and then they give them more focused resources and then tout that success. The rest of the kids are left to muddle through a languishing public education system. This is Republican governance.

 

I would just suggest understanding the correlation between white privilege and the black community for the last 100+ years which you clearly don't. Maybe Thomas Sowell knows the root causes of wealth inequality, income inequality, and the rise in single parent families in the black community over the last 100 years. Please report back.

 

He does know the cause and he has been preaching about since the 80s. Try listening to him and he will tell you, but you won’t believe. Why do you think there has been such a rise in single parent families in the black community since the 1960s?

I’ll give you a couple of hints, its a socialist policy and it went in to effect about the same time single parent families began escalating.

 

I know know one is going to buy this but Thomas Sowell was preaching about this in the 80s and libral politicians would not listen. He is still preaching about it today. Everything he said was dead on.