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Tracy McGrady: CP3 wanted more movement out of James Harden. Harden didn't budge.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rasheed, May 31, 2019.

  1. Texanstradamus

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    He is a better player than harden
     
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    I disagree.
     
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  3. Texanstradamus

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    Better stats don’t matter if you lose and don’t do squat in pivotal games on crunch time
     
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    We should just play one quarter in basketball. And they should be 5 minutes long tbh.
     
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  5. Texanstradamus

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    Well that’s where “superstars” usually take over ala what curry did after KD went down and game 6 but hey long as he has better stats then curry and lose your fine with that
     
  6. HP3

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    NBA players are paid to play 4 quarters of a game lol. And if you dont like context or nuance, lets just stop here. We wont come to an agreement.
     
  7. Mr. Clutch

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    Two years in a row the offense had a 110 ortg in the playoffs. That's a big dropoff from the regular season and would he mediocre or bad in the regular season. The defense basically held up fine and was excellent against Utah
     
  8. Mr. Clutch

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    I think you're overrating Curry's supporting cast. Without Durant they are basically a .500 team. With Durant they are like the old thunder
     
  9. TEXNIFICENT

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    Didn't Kawhi Kawhit on the Spurs after faking an injury? Does that count?
     
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    And I’m telling you again elite defenses are gonna drop you from your averages, that’s how it goes. Utah would do the same or worse to pretty much any elite offense they would face. Look at the example I just gave you.

    Curry is a great player doubt GOAT shooter. But Klay is the second greatest shooter ever and Draymond is one of the best defensive players ever. They are a phenomenal 2nd and third options. Than you add one if the greatest scorers ever and then you see a team wty the most talent ever. You can’t deny he plays with a stacked deck, you can’t.

    Like without Klay, or Draymond or lesser players they wouldn’t have any championships.
     
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    The difference isn't the supporting cast otherwise they wouldn't fall off a cliff when Curry sits.

    And I fundamentally disagree that a good defense always beats a good offense. After watching the warriors how can you believe that?
     
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    What’s their record again when Durant doesn’t play? (It’s 31-2 over their past 33...). Hardly a .500 team...
     
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  13. HP3

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    They fell off a cliff for a stretch of the season one time and that was when they had turmoil. Otherwise they have won PO games in the first and second round when Curry has sat. They would be a good team without Curry trust me, Kevin’s Durant isn’t a joke.


    We didn’t play good defense against them though? Numbers don’t back it up, not to mention we got out rebounded....like alot
     
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    Can't judge him on ONE game against the Dubs. Kawhi's a ~50% FG shooter, 38% 3pt shooter, and 85% FT shooter. Nothing wrong with his efficiency at all, and when he's healthy, he's the best defender in the game. Only concern is his questionable health history.
     
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    After misdiagnosing him lol now he back in the finals if anything the spurs look dumb they traded a top 3 player when healthy for poormans harden and didn’t even get siakam
     
  16. Texanstradamus

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    harden takes a ton of 3s so it’s only right he get more pts a game problem is when the 3 ball not falling what do he have to fall back on free throws can’t be ur crutch since it all falls on a whistle which can be some timey
     
  17. PlayBall

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    Ok. I was talking about Kawhi's game, not Harden's.
     
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    So his faithful ones can say he got us there.
     
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    On the cool lol Chris Paul didn't move without the ball either. He would do the same skit Harden did, and that was to stand darn near half court watching.
     
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    Might have been a mix up
     

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