[Shams] Rockets balance of styles and stars to mark this summer in Houston

Ultimately there needs to be more ball movement in the offense, particularly if we have a few playmakers on the team that we can capitalize on.

It's less to do with the fact that we are good in isolation, and more to do with the fact that we have 2 world class passing guards on the team that can capitalize on ball movement. I think most of us forget how good Harden's passing is and instead of dribble dribble dribble, having constant movement and more openings due to that, we can take advantage of both the scoring and passing of CP3 and Harden, instead of mostly the individual scoring and solid passing on an extremely high usage rate.

 

I really do but care either way

 

I made a post titled how to beat the warriors ,i specifically said we needed more ballmovement,yet i got bashed by idiot fans ,whos the genious now?

 

This is so ironic. I actually felt that Bev and Harrell (the two guys we traded for him and are paid a fraction of what he makes) would have helped more than CP3 in this postseason.

That said, even though Paul is not able to play at the star level anymore, his view about the game is still respectable. I trust his basketball IQ more than Harden's.

 

he would either do exactly what harden does or try to run offense? What’s your point?

 

It's really frustrating, I dun like Kobe but if Harden had some of Kobe's (or Wade's) DNA, dayum, at least his body language would not be the same.

It's fascinating how similar they are, loving bball and getting better but the on court persona is vastly different.

Obv. Harden is even more talented.

 

I've been seeing this the whole season & last season. Harden is so good but couldn't he at least act like he cares & when he's not initializing the offense?
Wish he would've set more picks or cut more often than the many time where he isn't even shown in the half court camera view...

 

I totally agree. Most of these athletes are super competitive and don’t like watching a guy tank it / “half ass it”.... idc what all nba team this or that , that Harden makes.... he takes plays off!! And some are at crucial times

 

Not a good way to look at it my man.

 

The problem isn't ball movement.
The problem is shot selection.

Houston Rockets
Three point attempts - 3721
Percent made - 35.6%
Two point attempts - 3442
Percent made - 55.1%
Total points scored - 9341 points

Warriors
Three point attempts - 2824
Percent made - 38.5%
Two point attempts - 4537
Percent made - 55.7%
Total points scored - 9650 points

Bucks
Three point attempts - 3134
Percent made - 35.3%
Two point attempts - 4337
Percent made - 53.5%
Total points scored - 9686 points

Raptors
Three point attempts - 2771
Percent made - 36.6%
Two point attempts - 4534
Percent made - 53.9%
Total points scored - 9384 points

Conclusion: All the other teams shot more two pointers than threes, therefore their offenses scored more points because they are higher percentage shots. They each shot about 1000 more two pointers (easier) than we did.

Our philosophy is backwards. We shoot all these threes, which we aren't good at. We don't shoot enough twos, which we are awesome at.

That is the damn problem. Either shoot more two pointers or get some real long range shooters.

 

Well your post implied that Harden would be crazy to call Paul lazy because he walks it up the court dribbles the ball for 16 seconds.

When faced with the actual stats. Either the amount that Harden lazily walks up the ball and dribbles 16 seconds is extremely overstated by a confirmation bias or Paul is nearly just as guilty as Harden of being “lazy”.

Which makes the post I originally responded to nonsensical.

 

Cp3 or harden havent used their social media in a good minute

 

Tell that to your fellow officers

 

Thanks for the breakdown. Hard to argue with that. I think their philosophy isn’t necessarily off, but needs to be adjusted. Use the two’s to open up the threes. Rather than the three’s to open up the two’s.

 

Ummm... The other 3 teams by my quick math all shot about 200 more shots than we did. THAT is why they scored more points.

 

Turnovers

Iso Team
Rockets - 1094

Ball movement teams
Warriors - 1169
Bucks - 1137
Raptors - 1150

Conclusion: The Iso Rockets took care of the ball more than the ball movement teams. That's a good thing, right?

 

Pace and Offensive rebounding. We suck at that too. I was going to get to that in a minute.

 

i mean if you have less passing on a team, obviously the likelihood of a turnover is going to be less. results aren't exactly surprising if accurate

 

If you actually watched the games, you'd see that while both of them played at a slow pace and dribbled a lot, their styles are very different. I don't know if I should call either "lazy" but they are slow.

Harden takes the full 8 seconds to cross mid court. Paul usually take less time. Harden dribbles seemingly without purpose in front of his defender for another 8 seconds or so before he makes a move to start attacking. Paul keeps poking and trying to penetrate into the paint. If he can't make a play, he will back out and try again. In short, Harden's long dribbling is usually stationary. Paul moves around while dribbling. That's why just showing the average time they dribble does not tell you what really happens.

 

Let me just stop you there.

Only the Warriors scored more efficiently than we did. And only by the absolute slimmest of margins.

The ONLY reason those 3 scored more than us was they played faster therefore more possessions, therefore more shot attempts.

You falsely made a correlation using some stats while completely ignoring significant info to bolster the less 3s more 2s agenda.