Two camps of thoughts on coaching and Morey in general

Who were the top 5 teams last year anyway.
Rockets, GSW, Raptors?? LeBron, Jazz?

 

i am, carry on ; )

 

Last year Celtics were definitely better than Jazz in my opinion. NOP and Jazz maybe about same but NOP had superstar, Jazz had none.

 

I lean towards the second camp - cept Morey is fine. Morey filled the roster superbly by the end - MDA jus didnt maximize it...
MDA is a good coach - but he just aint gettin the job done. Idc about reg season success - its all about the ring - and MDA blows opportunities with his stubborness. I'd guess he feels he has already relinquished true control to first DM - and then the stars - and D to Bzdelik. He's just doing what he can not to step on toes... but he stubbornly sticks to stuff he can control - rotation and minutes - while trying to pump his offensive stats and staying out of the way on other stuff. That dont fly...
We need somebody who will take control and be responsible for the whole thing. Someone who will hold our stars accountable... be willing to adjust in games... Somebody who will run plays - and not just give every player on the team a green light to chuck 3s 24/7....

MDA is better than most - but I'm not seeing him being the answer...
MDA is the Marty Schottenheimer of the NBA - a great reg season coach - but a guy who aint gonna get you to the promised land...
As far as a replacement... idk...
I'm ready to give JVG a shot again....
I think most of our offensive numbers would plummet... but hopefully we would adopt better focus and the grittiness needed to win pivotal games...

 

idk... listening to him talk during games it seems he is far more receptive than he used to be... i think he sees the game evolving... I think having had a ringside seat he sees the benefits of Moreyball... while at the same time has the old school appreciation for the fact that in crunch time you gotta have a plan to finish at the rim with 2 hands....
More than anything he's a tenacious lil guy who I think will push our players - at both ends of the court - while at the same time being a good enough guy that he's not gonna alienate our stars...

...jus a thought...

 

I know Morey isn't perfect, but is there any doubt that he's not one of the finest GM's in the league? I'm pretty sure were are a top 3 winningest teams over the last decade. He's not infallible. He's made some mistakes. But i'd bet on him to figure out a way to get us another shot at the title in the near future. And for those calling for his head, who do you think could do better? We've had legit shots at the title the last two years.

I think it's time to look for a less 1-dimensional head coach. someone who understands the importance of defense and rebounding, and will bring more structure to the offense. There are a lot of good coaches out there. MDA's contract is up.. Why not take a look at the possible alternatives?

 

i am in camp 1. It would be interesting to have a poll on this.

 

Morey is smart, he knows any algorithm needs to be consistently honed, ours is not done yet.

DD

 

They've already tweaked & changed.

Theyve changed owners. Leslie Alexander-->Tilman Fertitta

They've changed coaches. Kevin McHale-->JB Bickerstaff-->Mike D'Antoni (and Rick Adelman before him, who Morey pushed out the door)

Swapped one declining star for another: Dwight Howard --> Chris Paul

Swapped out the roster around Harden.

Spoiler

2012-13:
Jeremy Lin
Chandler Parsons
Patrick Patterson
Omer Asik
Patrick Beverley
Aaron Brooks
Carlos Delfino
Francisco Garcia
Terrence Jones
Marcus Morris
Donatas Motiejunas
Thomas Robinson
Greg Smith

2013-14:
Jeremy Lin
Chandler Parsons
Dwight Howard
Omer Asik
Patrick Beverley
Aaron Brooks
Francisco Garcia
Terrence Jones
Donatas Motiejunas
Omri Casspi
Isaiah Canaan
Robert Covington
Troy Daniels
Jordan Hamilton
Josh Powell
Greg Smith

2014-15:
Dwight Howard
Patrick Beverley
Trevor Ariza
Clint Capela
Josh Smith
Corey Brewer
Jason Terry
Francisco Garcia
Terrence Jones
Donatas Motiejunas
Kostas Papanikolaou
Isaiah Canaan
Pablo Prigioni
Alexey Shved
Troy Daniels
Joey Dorsey
KJ McDaniels
Nick Johnson

2015-16:
Dwight Howard
Patrick Beverley
Trevor Ariza
Clint Capela
Josh Smith
Ty Lawson
Corey Brewer
Jason Terry
Michael Beasley
Terrence Jones
Donatas Motiejunas
Montrezl Harrell
Sam Dekker
Andrew Goudelock
Chuck Hayes
Marcus Thornton
KJ McDaniels

2016-17:
Patrick Beverley
Trevor Ariza
Clint Capela
Eric Gordon
Ryan Anderson
Lou Williams
Corey Brewer
Nene
Montrezl Harrell
Sam Dekker
KJ McDaniels
Troy Williams
Bobby Brown
Tyler Ennis
Chinanu Onuaku
Isaiah Taylor
Kyle Wiltjer

2017-18:
Chris Paul
Trevor Ariza
Clint Capela
Eric Gordon
Ryan Anderson
PJ Tucker
Luc Mbah a Moute
Nene/Gerald Green
Joe Johnson
Brandan Wright
Tarik Black
Troy Williams
Briante Weber
Isaiah Canaan
Bobby Brown
Chinanu Onuaku
Zhou Qi
Markel Brown
RJ Hunter
Aaron Jackson
Demetrius Jackson
Tim Quarterman

2018-19:
Chris Paul
Clint Capela
Eric Gordon
PJ Tucker
Nene
Austin Rivers
Gerald Green
Iman Shumpert
Kenneth Faried
Danuel House
Carmelo Anthony
James Ennis
Brandon Knight
Michael Carter-Williams
Marquese Chriss
Gary Clark
Isaiah Hartenstein
James Nunnally
Vince Edwards
Zhou Qi
Terrence Jones
Chris Chiozza
Trevon Duval
Michael Frazier

Only thing(s) that haven't changed:
GM-->Same GM for 12 years (+Thaddeus Brown)
James Harden
Hardenball/Isoball/Moreyball

They don't have a 1st round pick. They don't have a 2nd round pick. They've spent all their cash.
They have no cap space.
They're faced with losing Austin Rivers, Iman Shumpert, Kenneth Faried, Gerald Green & maybemaybeno Danuel House
Only have full bird rights on Iman.

1st round exit (Thunder 4-2)
1st round exit (Blazers 4-2)
Conference Finals exit (W 4-1 Mavs; W 4-3 Clippers; L 4-1 Warriors)
1st round exit (Warriors 4-1)
Semifinals exit (W 4-1 Thunder; L 4-2 Spurs)
Conference Finals exit (W 4-1 Wolves; W 4-1 Jazz; L 4-3 Warriors)
Semifinals exit (W 4-1 Jazz; L 4-2 Warriors)

7-16 vs Warriors

Rockets & Warriors were once on par with each other. (Warriors actually worse years prior)
2012-13: GSW 47-35 | HOU 45-37
2013-14: GSW 51-31 | HOU 54-28
Warriors fired Mark Jackson, hired Steve Kerr and haven't looked back since; won 3 of 4 Finals, going for 4 in 5
And didn't the Warriors play isoball (maybe not to the same extreme) under Jackson?

As the Warriors attract stars on discounts, Houston gets the washed up stars and gives them max deals.

 

you're not sorry at all. you should be banned.

 

JVG would be a great coach for this team.
DD

 

One other point I forgot to mention is how the demeanor/attitude of the coach translates to play.

D'antoni just feels way too laid back at times, I never get that grit/ruggedness from him like I do from Popovich/Snyder/JVG

Outside of PJ and CP3, it always feels like the rest of our guys could play tougher/harder/nastier

We need to get a coach that can inject that level of tenacity/nastiness in our play

 

I think we should hire JVG and Mark Jackson together as co-head coaches.

 

Jesus Christ, JVG would have 20 mini heart attacks trying to coach out all of Harden's horrible lazy tenndencies game to game.

 

If true than we need to blow this thing up already. Tier 2 teams don’t play in the ship!

Coach must go
Capela traded
Tucker cloned
Harden grows a pair during playoffs
CP3 restructuring contract

..... none of this will happen. We will get Butler or someone similar and “Run it back” again. Many of us saw this coming but we figured KD would have done more to put us here. Smh.