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We’re just not talented enough

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets1897, May 11, 2019.

  1. Rockets1897

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    We needed monster games from EG and Cp3 through the series to beat these guys. Capela a complete no show. Why? Because the dude has no talents except being athletic. What kind of a contract would Harrell have if he was the heir to Dwight Howard? Harden made a Swiss McGee into a millionaire.

    Gerald Green of the bench. Cmon the dude plays like he is on crack and if shots go in good if not disaster.

    House disappeared in the playoffs.

    Chris Paul declined so bad from last year he had one good game in the post season.

    Gordon is so streaky one game he lights it up second game a total no show.

    I’m sorry but the warriors just have more talent still 3 all stars compared to our 1 and an old CP3.

    Harden Tucker and Rivers played on the level they were supposed to play. In almost if not all games. We needed everyone to be perfect but cp3 and Capela underperforming is too much to overcome against a team with more talent. If Gordon shot better tonight it would be 3-3. But he didn’t. Because that is EG. He is streaky.

    Curry and Klay had average/crap series but they went hot one game and it was over for us. Too much talent to overcome.

    It wasn’t last year when cp3 was actually playing like a superstar the whole series. But this year sorry just not enough. His decline was too big to overcome.

    Clint was supposed to be that third/second star but he proved that he is a glorified role player with no stamina and effort. Outplayed by Looney and Bell.

    And in the end be careful what you wish for. Trading Harden and then maybe stink for 10 years? Players like Harden don’t come around often. Lebron needed to join Wade and Bosh to win a title. And you people expect Harden to dethrone 3-4 all stars on his own...Which other player with this roster would put us in position to even compete or bring down the warriors?
     
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    Look people rockets are a great team. Probably the 2nd best team in the west. Its just that we are missing probably 1 or 2 key players to get to the next level, and we dont have rookie stars on flexible contracts either, or players taking any kind of paycuts to have a team. It is what is is, two highly payed nba players(harden and paul make alot of money to me, this hinders any signings), and scrub d league team. Well tuckers ok.
     
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    Wrong. They won with Jerebko, Looney, Cook, Bell, Bogut, 35 year old Iggy, and 35 year old Livingston all getting minutes.

    We were the more talented team and we choked. Harden played with no energy, Gordon didn’t get many touches, Capela was absolutely embarrassing, CP3 was gassed by the fourth quarter, MDA had terrible rotations (Gerald Green to start the fourth?? Really?).
     
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    G6 was more about heart than anything. They wanted it more and we played like we were up 3-2. Harden was nerve wrecking. That’s the ball game.
     
  5. Rockets1897

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    ‘35 year old Iggy’ was hitting a clutch 3 after clutch 3 this series. And played full starter minutes with superb defence.

    Clint Capela is a bit more athletic Looney. Dude is a scrub who feeds Hardens lob his whole career. So overrated. Deandre Jordan is Shaq for this dude.

    Houston Rockets are James Harden are a bunch of role players. Cp3 regressed into a role player too after being a star last year.

    This team overachieved last 2 seasons
     
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    We’re taking guys on minimum contracts, taking people off the couch in the middle of season, taking Brooklyn nets rejects, signing G League players for rotation.

    The talent level gap is huge now that Cp3 had declined.

    What if Harden had crap games like Curry or Klay. We’d get swept.
     
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    We need to sort that Front Court out, it's cost us for two seasons now
     
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    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    exactly. even without KD they had much more talent on the floor. as much as we hate him, Steph = harden. harden is better all around but Steph is smart and clutch. harden is neither. Klay > Paul. dray > tucker. Iggy = ego. looney = Clint. Livingston > rivers. and so on... we didn't have 1 advantage anywhere.

    and yet each game was decided by 6 or less. morey and MDA got the most out of this team.

    the only thing left to do is narrow the talent gap. but instead, we let ariza walk, we didn't use the MLE (signed crap vet min guys instead), made trades to save money instead of get better at the deadline. if that's how tillman is going to run the team we will never win. if we spend to bring in talent to compete we would be the champions.
     
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    Rockets are missing a system that involves the entire team... The offense they run now is great for the regular season, but will not win you a championship.

    T_Man
     
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    Its not talented its leadership. We have to be high quality in the leadership department. Thats from the top down
     
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    We don’t have the personnel to run another system where everyone gets involved and touches the ball. We don’t have a point forward on our team that can maybe handle the ball a lil bit and pass it around. No one outside of Cp3 and Harden can create for others on this team. We have a center who’s only ability is catching lobs. Don’t really see another way to play
     
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    Talented enough to win 2 games in a row with KD. Not talented enough to muster home a 12 min kd less 4th quarter to win in a tie game? Not talented enough to go home and play like your season is over to force a game 7 without kd for 48 mins? Yeah I’d say that doesnt sound right.
     
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    When Clint Paul and Gordon were out it forced MDA's hand to play Clark, House, Rivers, and Faried a ton of minutes and we survived that period. Sure it required Harden to go Supernova but they all had games where they contributed one way or another. Then when everyone else came back it's as if MDA couldn't trust those guys anymore with the exception of Rivers.

    That's what separates good coaching from mediocre coaching. You have to build that confidence and trust factor with your entire roster of players so they don't shrink in the playoffs. Popovich is a master at this and Kerr, while he's supreme douchebag, does this too and had no problems rolling out Jerebko and Looney in an elimination game.
     
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    I’m sorry man but did you see what kind of shots Curry and Klay made in the end? Sometimes you just need to tip down your hat. Klay made one 3 with like 2 people n him. Curry got a pick and Tucker was already switching and putting a hand in his face and the ball just goes in. Our roster is much weaker than theirs it took super human defence from everyone to limit them and they just went off and made all shots.
     
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    Yeah I certainly did. Those are called shots players with killer instincts take.
     
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    Only player that actually didn’t get a chance was Faried. Everyone else was given their chance and proved to be too streaky. Gerald, House, Shumpert. Nene actually proved to be the only reliable one off the bench with Rivers. But yes I won’t argue Kerr and Pop are better coaches than MDA. But he gave those guys chances but they’re all bunch of rejects, dudes getting picked up while walking dogs or G League players who this forum made look like Pippen
     
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    Those are called snipers. They’re all time great shooters. Maybe if we surrounded Harden with players who can shoot the ball actually and shoot over 40% from 3 we’d be getting somewhere. EG is our best and only real catch and shoot player but he is streaky as hell
     
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    Nah those are called killers. They step up in the big moments. Some players got it. They do
     
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    Sorry but that’s insane. They don’t have all stars at every position... but neither do most teams who run various systems.

    They’re romanticized every year by the ORtg of the regular season. Every year the offense falls apart in the playoffs against good defensive teams. And more obvious, against good defensive teams and down the stretch of big games.

    The offense is not good when it counts.
     
  20. Mr. Clutch

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    Our star isn't good enough

    Came down to Curry> Harden
     

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