1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

The rest of the series will define Harden's legacy.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockets13champs, May 2, 2019.

  1. hakeem94

    hakeem94 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2016
    Messages:
    30,803
    Likes Received:
    41,420
    harden is the GOAT, the greatest player of all times, if you have any other term for a player that singlehandedly beats the best team of all times consisting of 5 allstars, 2 mvps, 1 unanonimous mvp, 1 COTY, pls let me know.

    no one can beat the refs... no one...you can only bribe them

    i hate to be a harsh to a brother rockets fan and say you are clueless, but you should give credit harden because he deserved it..

    Rockets fans and all ppl who root for harden,
    are you just gonna sit there and blame harden(?!) for refs being biased towards him, stealing his ring last year and EGGREGIOUSLY doing the same thing this year which is acknowledged even by the greatest rockets haters and all the media?
     
    Rocket River and waytookrzy079 like this.
  2. hakeem94

    hakeem94 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2016
    Messages:
    30,803
    Likes Received:
    41,420
    and having the refs against them stealing cca 12 FTS in a single game
     
  3. gotsis

    gotsis Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2009
    Messages:
    1,337
    Likes Received:
    1,226
    In hindsight we will certainly see that altough we asked too much of Harden he always outperformed expectations and not beating GSW is not embarrassing. They are just too good right now.
     
  4. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2001
    Messages:
    26,575
    Likes Received:
    35,637
    *Choker*

    • If you do not win the title.....are you a *choker?* Are there 29 other teams filled with *chokers?*
    • Was LeBron a *choker* for years before he *teamed up* with Wade & Bosh (then later with Kyrie & Love) to win a title and magically isn't a choker anymore?
    • Was KD a *choker* until he *teamed up* with GSW?

    Just *being a great player* isn't enough to win a title. Quality of teammates are the deciding factor.

    People really like to throw around that *choker* term without any context. Just pick and chose things here and there.
     
  5. Xerobull

    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2003
    Messages:
    33,254
    Likes Received:
    30,750
    I actually agree with this hot take thread title.
     
    hakeem94 likes this.
  6. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    47,148
    Likes Received:
    35,975
    I would say our defense almost beat one of the best teams ever. Harden had a rather average series.
     
  7. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    47,148
    Likes Received:
    35,975
    Reading your post, I understand why many posters hate me. If the notion is that Harden is anywhere near GOAT status on Clutchfans, my take might be rather jarring because I believe he is no where near that level.

    We do have a former player though who is in the ballpark of top 5-10 players of all time though. Harden isn't close that player.
     
  8. Vivi

    Vivi Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2016
    Messages:
    18,561
    Likes Received:
    20,774
    You don't beat the Warriors with defense or offense, you need both, and Harden was also part of that defense. He was also the best player of the team, without him that would've ended p in a quick 0-4
     
  9. Richie_Rich

    Richie_Rich Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2009
    Messages:
    2,360
    Likes Received:
    1,543
    /thread
     
    Deuce likes this.
  10. hakeem94

    hakeem94 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2016
    Messages:
    30,803
    Likes Received:
    41,420
    he is that player.. he is the best EVER... it doesnt mean hes better than the refs....
     
  11. Reeko

    Reeko Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    45,462
    Likes Received:
    127,163
    Legacy on the line in the 2nd round against an incredibly stacked team while he rolls up to the game with aging CP3 and a bunch of role players? What a joke...
     
    Patience, luckyman76, Deuce and 3 others like this.
  12. Reeko

    Reeko Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    45,462
    Likes Received:
    127,163
    yeah, because 1 person speaks for many others on CF... :rolleyes:
     
    fckbandwagons and hakeem94 like this.
  13. Astrodome

    Astrodome Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2015
    Messages:
    10,994
    Likes Received:
    12,208
    Are we even sure that harden has peaked yet?

    Let the man play.
     
    Patience likes this.
  14. hakeem94

    hakeem94 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2016
    Messages:
    30,803
    Likes Received:
    41,420
    lol and that 1 person respects him perhaps more than anyone on cf
     
  15. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2005
    Messages:
    21,310
    Likes Received:
    11,755
    Lol this fool acts like harden owes him a chip
     
  16. dkoune

    dkoune Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    2,850
    Likes Received:
    763
    Cp3 and Hardens legacies are at stake these next two games. They will be forever known as playoff chokers if they lose both at home.
    It’s kinda unfair to Harden, the guy is asked to do so much and no one on this team seams to step up for him when he needs them too. Cp3 is the true fraud in this case if he doesn’t step the **** up and become at least some what serviceable but Jimmy will get the load of the blame unfortunately.
     
    hakeem94 likes this.
  17. bmelo

    bmelo Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2018
    Messages:
    3,892
    Likes Received:
    4,617
    Harden last year had more talented teammates than Jordan. Prove me wrong.
     
    hakeem94 likes this.
  18. SamFisher

    SamFisher Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    58,732
    Likes Received:
    36,182
    Who has left a more influential legacy for future generations- Shaq or Allen Iverson?
     
    Rocket River and hakeem94 like this.
  19. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    47,148
    Likes Received:
    35,975
    I would say prime Pippen is better than any player besides Harden on the Rockets.
     
  20. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 1999
    Messages:
    62,497
    Likes Received:
    56,087
    Can we please make these comments with regard to historical facts, and the same way people talk about Lebron last two years, like this:

    Having Harden as our primary superstar will never work in the playoffs against the best team ever assembled with 4 HOFers in their prime.

    Or better, with reference to Lebron’s attempts last two years, just say no one-man team can work in the playoffs against the best team ever assembled.
    I mean, come on ... no other NBA team the last two years has a shot in hell at beating this Harden team.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now