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Armed Pro-Trump Militia Kidnapping Migrants

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Apr 19, 2019.

  1. dachuda86

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    Patriotic? Rugged? Outdoorsy?
     
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    Why would I come up with a list of countries?
     
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    • Poor
    • Typically ged or high school education
    • 4 Chan /pol and stormfront readers and commenters
    • Usually enlisted military service
    • Have no prospects or goals in life outside their enlisted service.
    • Suffer from delusions of grandeur. An incessant desire to be a part of something important.
     
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    There are measures in place to oversee and prevent murders committed by police.

    A person didn't just 'die' .The person who was a resident of the town was murdered by someone who wouldn't have even been there if they had left law enforcement to those trained for it. It was completely preventable.
     
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    Arrested by law enforcement officials not vigilantes.
     
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    Show me evidence racism and I will stand arm and arm to condemn it with you. Cry racism where no evidence exists simply to push a political narrative and I call you an evil person. That’s the hill that I am on.

    So are you an evil person or do you have actual evidence that the people in the militia group detaining the criminals are part of some white supremest activity?
     
  7. dachuda86

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    Go ahead and prove that this isn't your internal bias after having to work with some negative personality types.
     
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    Well those negative personality types join groups like these. So...
     
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    Yeah still doesn't change your argument. We obviously need more law enforcement, otherwise BP wouldn't be so over run.
     
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    They absolutely hold white supremacist notions. You are very naive to think they don't. They wouldn't place this much effort into a hobby if they didn't. These people are very ideological and their entire life and paradigm is based upon the clash between the west and the rest of the world.
     
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    They are being legally detained.
     
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    I would challenge you on that... first you can't prove that even a large percentage do hold those views. Second, it wouldn't matter because we have laws that need enforcement. I really don't care who enforces it, so as long the law is upheld. Their personal views don't even matter. If they are racist like you say, they are useful pawns nonetheless. So long as they don't let that bias get in the way and they don't harm people or do unethical things to people.
     
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    Or possibly they are a group of land owners that are really tired of having people illegally cross the border on their property. You know nothing except your own pre conceived bias.
     
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    Do you believe the emoluments clause in the Constitution should be enforced?

    You are going to scream whataboutism right?

    My point is that your interest in this isn't merely "enforcing the law" or else your umbrella of giving a **** would expand greatly beyond this particular part of enforcing the law.
     
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    This is the hill you REALLY want to die on?

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/fbi-a...united-constitutional-patriots-border-militia

    The United States Constitutional Patriots are not a bunch of land owners. They are a fringe right wing militia group who's leader was arrested. The leader doesn't even own ****ing land around the border. They push extremist propaganda. You should look them up.
     
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    I would like all laws enforced yes. Emoluments too. But not in a manner that is being used solely for political gain. If needed, bring the Prez to court. I could care less.
     
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    Should an armed citizens detain Trump?
     
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    Nope
     
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    So let's hire more law enforcement and judges instead of wasting money on the idiotic wall.
     
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    Judges. That is the center of the problem and why we have such a backlog. Unfortunately hiring more judges ain't sexy. Can't show how tough you are with migrants if judges are your solution.


    Trump ain't looking for a pragmatic solution. He's looking for a story that sells well for 2020 to his base so they can turnout in high numbers.
     
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