[Poll] Revisiting the Melton trade (I no longer call it the Ryno trade)

I miss Fly Gun Slingin Ry

 

It looks bad now. We'll see what comes of the Chriss contract (probably nothing good).

I'm not sure what to hope for with BK. He's a pretty good backup but a bad starter. I can't imagine any team really wanting him unless we give up a sweetener. So, I ask, what is even the point of Brandon Knight?

 

I fully expect Morey to make another trade with Knight involved so we’ll have to wait and see to fully judge, but as of now I’d take the trade back if I could.

 

DM took him to get rid of RA. He knew BK couldn't play. Chriss had some ability to play, but he has failed to adjust to the system. Melton had to go to unfortunately.

 

So who's more to blame, Morey, Tilman or Dantoni....who idk who said it @Nook maybe? Said that Dantoni didnt want Anderson on the bench as it was hurtful to the locker room.

 

Morey is terrible, always trading away 1st Rd Picks, the Rockets are going backwards as an organization, getting older, the Talent Level getting weaker.

 

Posted my thoughts on this topic in another thread:

Is Melton all that's separating us from another WCF visit (or beyond)?

If you answered no, you should probably agree losing Melton might suck in retrospect, but neither Ryno nor Melton were going to put us over the hump. Not with Ryno's dead-weight contract still on the books. Which means something else needed to happen.

Let's call it like it is: Ryno is a dinosaur that can't move, defend or shoot. He would be collecting DNP's if he was still a Rocket. He wasn't going to leave money on the table for us, so Ryno at $40M guaranteed was very likely going to cost us at least two first-rounders just to move him. Forget about upgrading the roster and better utilizing the 1/5th of our payroll he was occupying. We're talking two first-rounders just to get rid of him.

Not only that, but all things equal, who's more likely to play meaningful minutes: an athletic combo guard that can shoot and score....or a declining spot-up shooter that can't shoot? Ryno is approaching fringe NBA player territory without a real, discernible skill. Sure, Knight is a bit of a wild card given he's coming off injury and hasn't played meaningful minutes in so long, but I'd much rather have the latter at $15M than the former at $20M+. Ryno's strengths at their peak were unique to our system and our system alone. There aren't many teams want a PF that camps out at the 3-pt line.

I think we will soon find out whenever DM makes his big move that both A) Knight is movable and does have some semblance of value, and B) We can accomplish both goals simultaneously of moving Knight/Chriss and upgrading the roster. I highly doubt that happens with Ryno's contract still on the books. All Ryno was going to fetch us were other radioactive contracts like Parsons, Batum, Deng, etc.

We’ll see what happens, but losing Melton was a necessary loss to me. I’d rather lose Melton than the two first rounders we originally thought it would take to rid ourselves of Ryno.

 

This is as disastrous as not signing Ariza. Ryno and Melton's salary matches BK, Chriss, MCW, Melo. Tilman doesn't save anything for this year.
Ryno can help on defensive rebounding and excellent road game performance. He and Melton would be two valuable rotation players right now.

 

Did MDA want Ryno gone? ▼

 

Big mistake letting go of Melton

 

how good is melton as a defender? as good as a young beverley? or better? if he's as good, i think it was a big mistake. but maybe tilman made him do it. we need an on the ball defender at first point of attack like the heat have. D house is streaky too, but a lot of that is becasue he has to take a rushed 3 sometime, not wide open, but his impact on D is big. Meltons would have been better, probably.

 

There's still some hope (i guess) that Knight comes back to what he was a couple of years ago (so, nothing special but at least a solid rotation player), in the end he's still pretty young so, maybe it's not impossible. If that happens, the trade might end up being ok, let's say...but overall there's no way we're going to win that trade, if Melton becomes a solid bench player the Suns already won it, and personally i think Melton will be a solid starter at some point.

In the end Melton was always the only real asset in that trade, the other three pieces involved were trash for one reason or another, and we basically traded Anderson for another Anderson that right now we're desperately trying to dump/trade with a 1st rounder for a rotation player...and it seems like nobody is biting so far so, welp.

This looks like another move dictated by the owner and maybe the coach to me btw, the fact that we didn't pick up Chriss option for the next season means Morey & co. saw no value in him as a player, and i'm pretty sure their view was the same before the trade cause yeah, everyone knew Chriss was a bust. Also, Nook said MDA wanted Ryan gone, i understand that, but coach should have no word in this kind of moves imo, cause they don't care about future, flexibility etc...you see how coaches play the gm, they just suck. Pretty sure MDA was happy to get Ryan with that contract two years ago, wouldn't be shocked if he pushed Les to make it happen, and after two years he wanted Ryan gone...well, thanks. Just saying btw, maybe Mike word meant nothing in these moves in the end.

Would be curious to see how people would vote in a poll about that trade as today, pretty sure the "don't like it" option would raise as today. Personally i didn't vote if i remember well, cause i was happy to see Ryan gone but didn't like swapping Melton with Chriss. As today i would definitely vote "don't like it".

 

oh boy.. hp putting blood in the water.

@topfive said Morey was inflating Melton's value..

 

For it to come true, keep revisiting this thread. Need a bigger sample size.

 

I already forgot the guy I bet they Melton would be good this year - but good to see I was right

 

I never liked the trade. After watching Melton in summer league, it seemed like we were trading away first round talent and gaining very little in return. We are still stuck with a player with a big contract that contributes very little.