The astros gave away a hall of famer - for nothing

As usual, you missed the point.

Just about every team has let go of an all-time great at one point or another. JD by no means is an all-time great yet. Could be if he keeps leading the league in homers, but even then that's ALL he has brought to the table on any team.

Hell these Boston Red Sox that scooped up JD let go of what some tout as the all-time great of all-time greats.

It happens, gtf over it. We're pursuing another championship, while JD is pursuing his first.

 

8 games? Do you even know how to read stats? He had 8 decisions in 56 games.

But...the fact they essentially let him go after one season shows they didn't even give him half the opportunity JD had. It was in retrospect clearly a bad move. But at the time, it was just a blip on the radar.

You know what would be another bad move? Including Tucker in a trade for Austin Hedges.

 

No mistakes about it, if we didn't purge the team even waiving JDM, we would not have a boatload of draft picks. So JDM was not a mistake in my book.

 

I had no idea Curt Schilling pitched for the Astros

 

Arguably two of the best trades the Astros had ever made, one of which was Larry Anderson for Baggy. I am sure everyone who followed the Stros in the late 80's remember Anderson and his killer slider. the guy was simply unhittable.

and the other was trading away the big bopper Glen Davis to the Orioles for 3 guys - Steve Finley, Pete Harnisch, and Curt Schilling. Finley would later become our everyday CF. Harnisch was a mainstain in the rotation for several years. And all the while, the Astros made Schilling one of their relievers, although i think he had the closer role for maybe a season or two. I don't know what went wrong between Schilling and the front office or the coaching staff, because i remember watching him pitch and i'd always thought he had great stuff. i mean, he would come late in the game, and just blows by people with his fb. i don't think Schilling was particularly favored by the front office, because he was the first of three to be let go, and basically for nothing in return.

 

Yep... I believe the team envisioned him being a closer. The story goes that he was tutored by Roger Clemens just like JD Martinez was tutored by... Jason Castro (!?!) in the offseason and turned things around.

 

A steroid distributor that was not caught until 2006?

 

Astros won the World Series last year.
I'm still on quite the high from that!

 

All this talk of letting great players go, and no one's mentioned Staub for Clendennon. :-(

 

None of us were alive in those pre-historic times.

 

Rookie....

It was worse because Clendenon refused to report to Houston and rather than voiding the trade, Bowie Kuhn forced Houston to take other players in his place.

 

Cuellar

 

Tyler White could have been our next JD Martinez if we had traded or released him

 

Or the next JR Towles.

 

Maybe 4 HOF players on the 92 team. At least we kept half

 

If we didn't trade away Lofton... didn't squander the 1-1 in 1992... and didn't gut the team after the strike... the post-strike 1995 Astros could have easily been the following:

C S Servais/T Eusebio
1B J Bagwell
2B C Biggio
3B K Caminiti
SS D Jeter
LF L Gonzalez
CF S Finley
RF K Lofton

SP M Hampton
SP D Kile
SP C Schilling
SP S Reynolds
SP D Drabek
RP J Hudek
RP D Veres
CL B Wagner



Reality --
C S Servais/T Eusebio
1B J Bagwell
2B C Biggio
3B D Magadan
SS O Miller
LF L Gonzalez
CF B Hunter
RF D Bell

SP M Hampton
SP D Kile
SP G Swindell
SP S Reynolds
SP D Drabek
RP J Hudek
RP D Veres
CL T Jones

 

Ya, after Clendenon threw a fit and Kuhn went all Butt Selig on us.