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ClutchFans Game Thread: Heat @ Rockets 1/22/2018

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jan 21, 2018.

  1. Vindicator

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    so you're agreeing Harden is not the best finisher at the rim?
     
  2. vlaurelio

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    most effective stop crying LOL

    11.2 pts most in the league more than avg efficiency doing everything else gravity & volume

    lebron 3 pts behind
     
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    LeBron being 10% more efficient while averaging just 3 less points is not more effective?
     
  4. vlaurelio

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    NO.. why can't Lebron drive more? why can't he drive as much as harden? less skills? ablility? vision? stamina?
     
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    or maybe the right question is, why does Harden insist on driving that much when he's not as efficient as LeBron? why does Westbrook take that many shots when he's not that efficient?
     
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    Harden's drive volume is perfectly fine LOL

    Harden's no WB only you still equate the two
     
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    when did I equate the two? you're using the same argument that WBs fans make, that's what I'm calling out. excusing relatively low efficiency due to high volume is a cop out, and you know it
     
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    Came to read the post game...instead found pages of 2 people arguing with each other. Awesome.
     
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    harden needs to continue driving & scoring 11.2 pts & producing another 6 pts thru asists and open up the defense

    wb needs to shoot less

    ask MDA & Cp3

    like Lebron would be "I wanna join Houston only if Harden drives less" LOL
     
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    LOF wanna vindicate Lin
     
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    Also, by your logic here, why do you not consider Harden the best 3PT shooter? He was leading the league in sheer makes before the injury. So Harden is the best 3PT shooter in your view, right?
     
  12. Vindicator

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    So LeBron being 10% more efficient on just 3 points less is not more effective?
     
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    harden's drives are more effective considering the success of the team

    harden's elite playmaking, 3's, & drives is the engine for the rockets success this year get over it
     
  14. Vindicator

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    This is strictly about who is a better finisher at the rim
     
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    Nobody has time to talk those people down. Put down the keyboard! For your health!
     
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    i'm fine we're just talking
     
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    I choose Harden this year

    he produces 17 pts (by himself & assists) off drives compared to Lebron's 11 pts produced off drives

    that's 6 more points almost equal our pt differential

    that's why we're 2nd seed overall while cavs is 5th seed overall
     
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  18. Vindicator

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    do you have trouble reading? finishing ability at the rim = ability to put the ball into the basket on his own. It has nothing to do with playmaking nor team success. Harden can literally be the worst finisher at the rim, and do other things so great that the team keeps winning.

    Also, you still didn't respond to the 3PT analogy
     
  19. vlaurelio

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    yeah he can produce 11 pts off drives.. best in the league

    if lebron can put the ball into the basket off drives better then he could have easily score more than harden obviously he can't

    I think his drive volume is fine

    and you think he should drive less

    we can agree to disagree
     
  20. Vindicator

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    fine, but in most cases being 10% more efficient while producing just 3 points less would be considered to be better. There's no absolute answer to it, but when we're talking about 10% gap in efficiency, that's huge
     

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