Rick was one one side when it came to DeShaun Watson and the rest of the NFL was on the other then too..... Oh wait, that doesn't work with your narrative now does it? Again, if you want to defend BOB, don't roll with ad populum nonsense, actually use a legitimate defense. What is it you think he does well? He's been terrible when it comes to running an offense, he doesn't run the defense, he doesn't run special teams, his clock management is terrible, his decisions to challenge plays are terrible.....what is it you think he does that makes him a good coach?
Sure, the awful defense was the reason those games were even close but that doesn't make it okay that when the team had a chance to win, the coaching was insufficient to allow them to win. Bad clock management and awful play calling shouldn't be ignored simply because the defense is good enough to hide it....especially when you have a head coach that allegedly is an offensive guru. That said, I get that the reason that some ignore how terrible BOB has been is due to the defense being so amazing the last 2 years that the Texans managed to win games despite BOB's failures. That suggests that when the defense is back at full strength and Watson is healthy, it won't matter that BOB is a terrible coach.
He got to the playoffs with Hoyer and Osweiler. He’s far from terrible. It’s clear that he over achieved.
Wrong. He was on the same side as a lot of people. Like Mike Mayock, who had him as QB #1. You think he would've fallen to the 3rd if we'd have passed on him, lol? Try one pick later, the QB Whisperer loved him. He authored the highest scoring offense in the league with a rookie QB. With below average QBs his offense has been below average. Shocking. Only reason he has a QB now is the owner told Smith. But he won divisions with bad QBs, and that's tough to do. His players love him: Watson said he didn't want to play for anyone else, JD loves him, DHop, etc, etc. They play for him. He's smart and he's tough. He owns his room and guys want to play for him. Does he have room to improve? Sure. Clock management? Go on Tweetdeck and search verified users for "clock management" -- you'll see every head coach under fire by media for same, except perhaps Belichick. Should Chiefs have fired Andy Reid because of his awful clock management? I mean, that's your priority? When he goes to TEN with Jon Robinson or Detroit with Quinn or Arizona with Keim or Chicago with Pace or any of the other teams with decent GMs, we will see where he's at after a couple of years. Maccagnan lusts after him. Licht loves him, but I'm not sure O'Brien signs up for Jameis. But hey, maybe all of those guys who get paid to run NFL organizations and Watson/other players don't know as much about pro football as internet forum fire everybody and rebuild guy. But I hope you won't be offended if I side with the pros. You guys were screaming for Kubiak's job and he won himself a ring.
I've gone back and forth with O'Brien, but I think this is overall an accurate and fair assessment. I think he might be a bit overrated as a QB "whisperer", but hasn't been working with great personnel. I think ultimately people want change for the sake of change when things go bad, without acknowledging that there's a good chance the replacement won't be any better. Do we really want a top-down overhall this early in Deshaun's career? I'd say give O'Brien one more seasons, now doesn't make sense to fire him. This season has been a lost cause since Deshaun went down.
You say "he got to the playoffs" despite the fact that the team made it based on what the defense was doing, not what the offense was doing. In fact until Watson came along BOB managed to make the offense worse every single season he was here. If the only thing you can point to in order to justify BOB not being terrible as a coach was what RAC's defense did.....well it doesn't say good things. That wasn't the story being told at the time, in fact they were saying that he wouldn't have even gone in the first.....but that's back when Rick Smith was getting bashed for reaching. Clearly the narrative has to change now that it looks to have worked out. How much of that was BOB and how much of that was Watson? BOB has a history of doing absolutely nothing good on offense with any other QB unless you want to go back to his New England days when he had Tom Brady. I guess we just ignore his failures with literally every other QB right? The things Watson did is literally the only defense you could come up with for his entire coaching career and IMO that's telling.
That great #1 offense with thr great rookie and still the only wins they could show for it are Cincinnati (had literally zero offense coming into that game), Cleveland (still winless), and Tennessee (Mariota was out for a half). The four losses could be blamed on the coaching staff: Jacksonville (choosing to start with Savage), New England (bad clock management, not using timeouts), Seattle (bad clock management), and KC. We blamed management for not getting a QB, they finally did and the rest of the team (mostly rhe defense) regresses.
If the amount of HC job offers one will have indicates you are a bad HC than Billy B is a terrible HC.
Then he is a horrible, horrible HC. Which is why he should sprint -- if he could -- away from Rick and Cal and Bob right now. He'll have his pick of a boatload of of better owners with much better GMs and better rosters than what awaits him here. The only reason to stay here is his relationship with Watson. But sometimes you gotta take the opportunity that gives you the chance to go to Super Bowls when it presents itself.
So everyone wants to hire O'Brien and Rick (allegedly) overrules him all the time, yet he wants to stay as a lame duck without security in Houston?
I trust Hub Arkush; who broke the story. He is extremely well connected and has a close relationship with Arians.
31-31 in the regular season and 1-2 in the playoffs. With an All-Time great rookie QB performance, he manages a 3-3 record. So basically, spice up his literally mediocre record with excuses, then you have a good coach? Nonsense.
