Would you guys still be able to support the Rockets if they disrespected the flag by kneeling?

This position ignores the fact that there are in reality bad people that chose to become police officers, and they are doing so precisely because they know they can wield power without repercussions.

The klan and neo nazis have been actively infiltrating law enforcement for decades. It got so bad that the FBI had to conduct their own investigation on it.

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/31...-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-enforcement/

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a55695/white-supremacist-law-enforcement/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/r...filtrated-law-enforcement-agencies/ar-AAmsNqM

These are the people who are making it bad for cops, not people who complain about being beaten up, maced, shot, etc.

There must be actual consequences when police break their own rules on the job. Good police officers will suffer no additional burden by making the rule breakers face punishment. But the stance that you seem to be taking is that we need to just keep letting there be no consequences when they violate their own rules.

 

Those who voted NO

• SooneRockStro

• SuperKev

• Smokey

• Friday

• treeman

• tycoonchip

• Uprising

• ucansee2020

• corbe

• HangTime

• Mav-Hater

• carolbmt

• tomoboyle

• MaxRider

• kevtse

• Tfor3

• Bigdaddy210121

• got em COACH

• Jontro

• vick

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• K-Lo_The_Future

• c100

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Please BAN.

Except Jontro

 

Lol. You lined them up. @DonKnock style.

 

Does it need to be played before every game? I can see for All Star and Finals.

 

They could play it, or they could not. Either way the Houston home crowd would never know lol

 

Ah, there's that liberal tolerance for opposing ideas we hear so much about. I'm only surprised it took some Leftist illiberal dip s h i t trhis long to propose it. Figures it would come from the forum's certified r****d, though.

 

Why do you think its disrespectful?

 

Do u like 2 racism!?

 

THIS veteran thinks it's disrespectful because no where, ever, in the history of all anthem renditions has anyone ever asked anyone to "please take a knee" for the anthem. There's a protocol to this. Just as you rise to hear the gospel in church (of course many of you here wouldn't know anything about that), just as you rise when a superior officer enters the room in the military, just as you rise when POTUS is giving a speesh, standing is one of the most time-honored and traditional displays of respect there its, and it has been used when saying the pledge of allegience or honoring the anthem since those traditions were begun. You stand with hand over heart (or in salute if a vet), and purposefully ignoring that protocol has ALWAYS been seen as disrespectful. If you don't get it, then you almost certainly don't understand why standing with hand over heard or in salute is seen as being respectful.

The truth is that this is not a protest against police brutality or racism in law enforcement. If it was, the protesters would be doing this in front of city hall or police stations, not forcing their fans to endure political bull s h i t at a sporting event. This is a Leftist protest against the American system - the American way of life. There is NOTHING liberal about any of this - the NFL protests, the Antifa douchbaggery, the soft coup attempt through a baseless investigation and false reporting - this is ALL very anti-democratic and very illiberal. It's why I call you people Leftists and not liberals.

As usual, you people simply want to silence anyone who thinks differently than yourselves as a way of winning a cultural issue. Well, people are getting tired of it. It's what gave you Trump in 2016, and it'll only get worse from here.

Bottom line is, you and any of the guys on that field are perfectly free to kneel, put on sunglasses, or whip it out and take a leak in whatever disrespectful form of protest you'd like. The owners are free to fire you for it if they'd like, although I'd bet they're not inclined to do so. The fans are also perfectly within their right to stop watching and stop buying merch in order to show their disgust for the flag and nation that they love. And I am perfectly free to voice my opinion on it whether you like it or not. This being a private business, of course, the mods are also perfectly free to ban me if they don't like my opinions.

The other night I watched Star Trek Discovery and came away very disappointed. Not so much because the script sucked of the plot was silly, but because I didn't tune in to be bashed over the head with a diversity lecture on a sci-fi show. That's not what I tune in for. And that's not what I tune in for with sports, either. If they're going to bring politics into it, then I'll just find another way to entertain myself. And if enough people like me do this, the NBA and NFL can purge their fanbase of everyone who doesn't agree with them politically, and they can spout as much communist, socialist, and SJW dogmatic propaganda at their games with no worries, other than a significantly reduced income stream.

Mixing politics with entertainment ruins the entertainment value. Ultimately these people are entertainers. If they want to shoot themselves in the financial foot, I won't stop them.

 

Screaming "racism" where there's no evidence any exists is the hallmark of a slow mind. But I suspect that debate is way over your head.

 

Ok, thank you for your risponse.l! I hope the rockets win a lot of games this season

 

Basically a list of racists on Clutchfans. This is not about disrespecting the flag. This is about racism and white nationalism.

 

James Harden could whipe his butt with the American flag for all I care. My love for the Rockets surpasses any political view I could ever have

 

Like poetry. Folks , wrap It Up.

 

I am sorry if you misunderstood the stance I am taking. I thought I made it very clear, perhaps you need to reread what I put or I was not clear about what anti cop rhetoric actually is (what do we want, dead cops, when do we want it, now | Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon). In no way did I say bad police officers should get away with crimes. I do not recall agreeing that police brutality is just. I said in a previous post that you may have not read that the percentage of cops engaging in police brutality is so low that focusing on the very few that do is counter productive. Obliviously when a police is caught engaging in such behavior they should be dealt with by our court systems, that goes without saying.

 

That's why it's clearly listed in the flag code that you must stand. Also, that's why no veterans at all have come out and said they are cool with it. Like at all. Ever. Like ever ever.

Right, and Rosa Parks wasn't protesting treatment of African Americans, she merely had an axe to grind about the prices of public transportation.

Yup, screw people's voices. We should teach them a lesson by making voter ID laws more stringent and taking away the right to vote from anyone that doesn't vote our way. Let's also carve up areas and keep archaic systems like the electoral college in place because then we can win elections on technicalities.

Right, because whipping your dick out in front of children is the same as kneeling and should be a firable offense. God damn, how many children have I scarred in my lifetime by tying my shoes? Jesus, I didn't know. I didn't know!

I mean, when I elected a rich, petulant child who was a reality TV star I assumed the division between politics and entertainment was quite clear. I mean, it's not like my party elected an actor to be president.

Again, look above.

 

I think his point was that this is a Houston Rockets fan message board and that if you are so easily triggered by someone bending a knee to stop following your favorite team, you don't deserve to be a member of this fan club.

That decision is up to Clutch. If the President of the United States chimed in, and told the site admin to ban these people, then you can make a case that it's a violation of free speech.

 

First of all you responded to my previous post talking about TRUMP when I never even mentioned him in that post you replied to. You brought him up. Also in response to you randomly bringing him up in a post that I never once mentioned him, I simply said he has a right to his opinions, which I guess you are trying to tell me is untrue. Thirdly I never once said I agreed with his comments, please show me where I did.

Thanks for the insult. You see someone as dumb because you don't have reading comprehension, cute.