False Equivalence: 74% of Political Killings By Right Wing Extremists Since 2007

Left-wing extremism will increase as the current shitstorm continues. That tends to be the behavior of politically marginalized groups.

 

You'll notice that you've yet to make an intelligent argument for or against anything I've said....I can only assume that you are incapable and as such I pity you.

 

I saw that the government took away funds from groups like "life after hate".

 

produce the study's list of attacks and how they are assigned. Dobro earlier tried to link to another study which had Neo-Nazis murdering pedophiles in prison as right wing extremism. It also had bank robberies by white supremacists as right wing extremism.

 

Not to mention that it listed attacks by black supremacists as "right wing". It was pretty clear they were looking for a certain result and they moved things around or omitted things till they got it

 

Its very telling to me that when I read the study there isn't a table of every event and how it was categorized. This should be the very first thing in the appendix. I'll wait and see if Gifford can find it.

 

I'm generally pretty skeptical of all statistics like this, no matter which side of the debate they fall on. Most of these are extremely broad and inaccurate with how they assign motivations to people.

Person X was baptized as a catholic as a baby and never went to church again. He killed someone at age 30. File it under crimes by the Christian Right!

 

It's much more likely that he'll just lash out emotionally with name calling, but it's nice of you to give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

Shocking, holes get poked in something you post and you respond with nothing of substance to defend it.....yet pretend like there wasn't just holes poked in your post.

Pretty much what I'd expect from someone as limited as yourself.

When your study suggests that "The year 2016 was also unusual in that right-wing extremists did not dominate the murder statistics, as they have each year since the mid-1980s" it pretty much takes away all of it's credibility given that this statement is suggesting that in 2001 there were more murders by "right-wing extremists" than any other.....despite the fact that there was kind of a big thing that year that absolutely put another group on top.

Care to comment on that?

 

You do realize that "According to the Anti-Defamation League, right-wing extremists committed 74 percent of the 372 politically motivated murders recorded in the United States between 2007 and 2016." in no way implies that we're only talking about DOMESTIC politically motivated murders right?

 

Once again I'm going to point out the second worst terrorist attack on US soil was carried out by a Righwing extremists in Oklahoma City. Just this week another Rightwing extremist tried to bomb another Federal builidng in Oklahoma City. We seem to have a collective amnesia about what happened on 4/19/1995.

 

Lets beat up the study all we can. Sure... go for it.

However... lets say its not 3X as many Right Wing attacks. Maybe its just 2.2X or even 2X more... Would this report somehow being inaccurate or slightly inaccurate mean that we are all wrong about the growing concern of White Nationalism?

What is the point of trying to prove a point by picking apart the study? Seriously.. what point are you trying to make?

 

Let's also point out that the total sample of extremist related murders in a decade is on average is about the number of murders in Detroit on a given year....but sure, let's pretend that this 0.002% of murders in the country constitutes a "growing concern"

 

News to me as well. Following your note, I looked him up on Wikipedia. He seems to have been some sort of black supremacist and associated with the Nation of Islam. So yes, right wing ideology.

 

LOL, that was sarcasm right? These threads can have so much stupid in them that it's hard to tell these days.

 

I think you are confused. Its not the color of your skin that determines whether you are right wing or left wing. Its your ideology. Right wing ideology is more often associated with race supremacist points of view. And please do not throw words around like "stupid." It really takes away from your point of view.