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Rudy T invented the 3s and Paint philosophy!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Jan 13, 2017.

  1. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

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    I'm just stunned to see someone say that Rudy's offense that revolved around post ups, heavy ISO from guards, mid range shots, etc. is the same thing as an offense that relies almost entirely on PnR, five out, no post ups and no mid range.

    All this because dd doesn't want morey or dantoni getting too much love. Haha so much jelly.
     
  2. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    DD is anti anything Morey and b****es constantly like a butthurt ex anytime he senses someone praising Morey.
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Nothing to do with Morey - just realized that Rudy was doing this and deserved some credit.

    DD
     
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    DD is simply educating the masses about Clutch City. Because Clutch City is the force that combines the universe with God.
     
  5. justtxyank

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    Interesting! I didn't know you though thought morey just ran what Rudy t ran!
     
  6. napalm06

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    I've heard it said that Red Auerbach invented the offense that uses fast breaks. Therefore, he was the foundation of the D'Antoni offense.

    /sarcasm
     
  7. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Rudy T was an innovator - but not because of 3 point shooting. Rather it was his approach to spacing in order to give a great center like Hakeem room to do his thing. He didn't innovate to make his team a 3-point shooting team - he made his team a 3-point shooting team to give Olajuwon space.

    The modern offenses aren't post based. I just don't think this is an apples-to-apples comparison.
     
  8. Rocket River

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    It was then solidified when Arkansas used it in the NCAA
    With Corliss Williamson

    Rocket River
     
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  9. Rocket River

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    With a Guard it was called DRIVE AND DISH
    Steve Francis ran it before JVG came here

    Rocket River
     
  10. Rocket River

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    People coming in here to **** on Rudy?
    To not give Rudy his props?

    Wait. . .am I still on Clutchfans or is this SometimeyFans

    TINMAN!! What's going on here?

    Rocket River
    JohnnyComeLatelyFans?
     
  11. Rocket River

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    ONE MORE THING!
    This offense may not have worked as well back then because
    More bumping and impeding the offense was allowed.

    Rocket River
     
  12. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Great point, hand checking was allowed.

    DD
     
  13. tinman

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    Our enemies, THE NON BELIEVERS have returned.

    99ers unite, they will never underestimate us , we will rule them
     
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    confirmed:: DD is not Morey
     
  15. Zen Tabak

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    you've gotten it wrong. people are coming here to rudy the props he deserves and to give d'antoni the props he deserves. both innovators, but the styles of their offense were far from identical, as were their rosters. a team built around a god-tier big man like hakeem will always be different stylistically than a team built around a god-tier guard like james harden. rudy's NBA also had a different style of play than d'antoni's era. i'm not sure what your objection is other than member berries
     
  16. cheshire

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    All I know is that Rudy's strategy applied by the Dream and co led to back to back chips. It was a winning formula. What would be a fun what if, is how would an MDA led mid-80's Rockets team go. Imagine the Sampson/ Dream PNR, rinse and repeat.
     
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    No Rudy T doesnt deserve credit for MDA offense thats just dumb and offensive to people who can tell the difference between halfcourt and fastbreak styles.

    The Rox today dont even have a post player while the Rox before had one of the best post scorers ever how are they the same? The Rox offense today starts outside with Harden the offense before always started in the low post with Dream establishing himself inside first. The only thing they have similar is 3 pt shooters which is domething you find in almost all teams anyway.

    This thread is a massive disrespect to MDA, Morey, and the current Rox team who are real innovators and have made their mark in bball history. Its sad that the ones taking their rightful credit and giving it to somebody else profess to be "die hard Rox fans". Sorry 2016-2017 Rox according to the 99ers you are not original and everything you do is not worth ****.

    I dont understand why the 89ers feel so entitled, how hard is it to be a Rox fan when the Rockets are the back2back champs? By your logic the people who became Miami heat fans when Lebron came there then shifted back to Cleveland are the true die hard Miami heat fans. Those Heat 2012ers are really special, they were there when the magic happened! To me real fans aren't the ones who keep talking about a franchise' glory years but ignore their current situation, those are just text book band wagon fans. I classify DD and others as real fans not because they are 89ers, but rather because they are heavily invested in what the Rockets are currently doing. Those championship years are like two decades old already, to keep crowing about it and keep focusing on it at the exclusion of everything else is just a sign of someone living in the past IMHO
     
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  18. Scola Scoops

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    they were both seeking wins
     
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    I don't think you watched the games. Cato didn't get post up touches. He had rim runs for alley opps from Francis.
     
  20. Yodels

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    I do remember interviews from Rudy T back in the early 2000s talking about his switch in style from outside-in/drive-n-dish with Francis/Mobley/Mooch. But I would say that was his change-up pitch. He did like meat-and-potatoes post offense with the acquisition of Kenny Thomas, Mo Taylor, Yao Ming. But there was nothing wrong with being multiple.
     

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