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[Why Voter ID Needed] FBI Investigating More Dead People Voting In The Key Swing State Of Virgini

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  1. RocketsLegend

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    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-29/fbi-investigating-more-dead-people-voting-virginia

    For years the political elites, backed by funding from George Soros, have fought common sense voter ID laws as blatant attempts of racist right wingers to suppress the votes of minority and low-income citizens. These same people tirelessly argue that there is no evidence of voter fraud despite the mountain of facts that keeps piling up the contrary. In fact, per the National Review, United States District Judge Lynn Adelman of Wisconsin, in response to a voter ID complaint in that state, recently claimed that “virtually no voter impersonation occurs” in Wisconsinand that “no evidence suggests that voter-impersonation fraud will become a problem at any time in the foreseeable future.”
    Well, we guess that could be true if the pesky facts would just stop getting in the way. According to research conducted by the Pew Research Center in 2012, the capacity for voter fraud in the U.S. is substantial with nearly 2mm dead people found to be registered voters and nearly 3mm people registered in multiple states.
    And, just earlier today we wrote about how Arcan Cetin, the 20 year old Turkish citizen who recently killed 5 people at the Cascade Mall in Washington, somehow managed to vote in the past 3 election cycles despite not being a U.S. citizen. When asked about the news, Washington Secretary of State, Kim Wyman, simply said"we don’t have a provision in state law that allows either county elections officials or the Secretary of State's office to verify someone’s citizenship." Sure, because why would someone's citizenship status be important for determining his eligibity to vote?
    Now, courtesy of WaPo, we know that the FBI is investigating how exactly 19 dead people were recently re-registered to vote in the critical swing state of Virginia. A few months ago we noted Virginia Governor, andlong-time Clinton confidant, Terry McAuliffe's willingness to go to great lengths to hand his state's 13 electoral votes to Hillary by registering 200,000 felons to vote, but adding dead people to the voting rolls seems a bit excessive (see "FelonsVotesMatter (To Hillary) - Clinton's Election Fate In Virginia Lies With 200,000 Unregistered Offenders").
    Alas, according to WaPo, all 19 deceased voters were originally registered to vote in Harrisonburg and attempts to re-register the deceased voters were only discovered by chance after a clerk recognized one of the names as the deceased father of a local judge.
    All 19 were initially registered as voters in the Shenandoah Valley city of Harrisonburg, although a clerk double-checking the entries later raised questions about one. She recognized the name of Richard Allen Claybrook Sr., who died in 2014 at age 87, because his son is a well-known local judge. She happened to recall that the judge’s father had died.

    “He was a retired Fairfax County elementary school principal and had fought in World War II,” said his son, retired Harrisonburg General District Court Judge Richard Allen Claybrook Jr. “So our family is very disgusted that they would pick his name, because he was such a law-abiding citizen devoted to public service.”

    All of the forms had been submitted by a private group that was working to register voters on the campus of James Madison University, according to the Harrisonburg registrar’s office. The group was not identified. No charges have been filed.    ​
    Meanwhile, state republicans pointed to this as obvious evidence of voter fraud...
    Republicans in the state House of Delegates, who in recent years have supported tighter voter ID laws, held a conference call with reporters to call attention to the investigation.

    “Oftentimes we hear our Democratic colleagues suggest that voter fraud doesn’t exist in Virginia, or it’s a myth,” House Speaker William J. Howell (R-Stafford) said. “This is proof that voter fraud not only exists but is ongoing and is a threat to the integrity of our elections.”    ​
    ...while democrats responded with the same ole argument that no fraud occurred because no one actually voted.
    “First of all, there was no voter fraud — they caught him,” Toscano said. “Nobody cast a vote. . . . There’s still no evidence of that going on in the state. But there is evidence every time you turn around that the Republicans are trying to make it more difficult for citizens to vote in elections.”​
    Of course, we just pointed out how the dead in Colorado are actually voting and have been doing so for years...but we're sure that's not a concern to Toscano either.
    But something tells us, no matter how many of these types of situations emerge over and over, that U.S. citizens, and common sense for that matter, will never prevail in the war against George Soros and the simple political narrative that voter I.D. laws are somehow racist and/or disenfranchise low-income voters.
     
    #1 RocketsLegend, Sep 29, 2016
  2. larsv8

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    You posted an article about dead people being registered to vote.

    Voter ID would not prevent dead people registering to vote.
     
    #2 larsv8, Sep 30, 2016
  3. body slam

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    but it would prevent someone from voting under a dead registered voter's name
     
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    That's not why it's needed. It's needed if there is a more than an insignificant real voter fraud problem. After years, there is still no data to said it's an actual issue but there is real data saying that the set of voter id laws passed were purposely done to suppress democratic leaning votes.
     
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    What real data?
     
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    ^^^THIS

    And please cite a study released by someone that is not a left leaning publication like the NYT, WaPo, Daily Kos, Vox, Politico, etc....
     
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  7. Granville

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    Why is the inability to obtain a photo ID such a Democrat thing ?
     
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  8. CometsWin

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    It's actually the ability of Republican legislators to target minorities for disenfranchisement with voter ID laws by researching that types of ID's they're least likely to have and federal judges striking those laws down because they're racist by design. Glad I could help you with the facts, I know guys aren't really up on being factual when you present gibberish as evidence.
     
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  9. Space Ghost

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    TG's needing to use a female facility was an insignificant problem, however liberals made it out like a massive group of people were being disenfranchised.

    Where do we draw the line with 'insignificant' problems? When its not a liberal agenda?
     
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  10. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    And dead people don't need ID's to vote absentee which is course the easiest way to commit voter fraud but since that's a method of voting most frequently done by white people then that's no problem. And it's not racist, it's just a coincidence. A series of isolated pieces of legislation in former Confederate states that are a completely unrelated to each other.
     
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  11. Granville

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    Pay attention to the question I asked. I asked why getting the lack of getting a photo ID is such a Democrat thing... Care to respond to that?
     
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    Couldn't we just make government IDs free for all citizens? That way, we don't spend money on this witch hunt of fraudulent voters and those against government IDs to vote have no reason to cite financial burdens. It's only like $25 every 6 years, and it's not difficult to renew once every 6 years.
     
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    Who knows? The studies do show that by imposing voter ID you disinfranchise majority democrat voters. Disinfrnachisment of anyone's vote is un-American. You do believe in America right?
     
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  14. CometsWin

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    It's a poor people thing, an old people thing, and a disabled people thing. There's nothing specific to being a Democrat that incapacitates you from getting an ID. That's just another line of insult to distract from how these voter ID laws were constructed and who they were specifically targeting.

    A lot of people believe Republicans are racist and target minorities and Republicans, quite obviously in this instance, frequently confirm that belief. Now they've selected a white supremacist sympathizer for President. It's an easy call to make.

    And it's telling how the usual suspects have shown up in this thread but you were ghosts in the North Carolina ID thread where a federal judge called out the law as intentionally racist.
     
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  15. SamFisher

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    Because being a racist, vote suppressing sack of dildos and rebooting Jim Crow rules to preserve white power is a Republican thing, such as your standard bearer, and presidential candidate:

    Trump.
     
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    So Republicans are equally disenfranchising their own base by asking for photo ID?
     
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  17. Space Ghost

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    Government ID's would be met with great resistance.

    State ID's are like $10.00. If someone is truly that impoverished and can't pay the 10 bucks, start a charity fund.

    Voter ID fraud is largely irrelevant just as the excuse of those not being able to get one is largely irrelevant.
     
    #17 Space Ghost, Sep 30, 2016
  18. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    The Republican base is uneducated, angry white men, by their own admission.
     
    #18 CometsWin, Sep 30, 2016
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    Yeah let's stop policing too since most caught are non-whites.
     
    #19 Dei, Sep 30, 2016
  20. Major

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    You realize TGs were already using the bathroom that fit them in most places and it's never been an issue. It was the GOP that decided it was a huge political wedge issue and started passed bills to ban it. The status quo was working fine and was not an issue for the most part.
     
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