Wouldn't that make the father and you intolerant of mental diseases. In other words, you'd be understanding of your son living his life as a reincarnated Napolean, or even five different people, but not if he's Lady Godiva, bursting to get out?
This. How would the father feel if the son killed himself because he couldn't deal with his emotions? I'm not for or against transgender, but it has nothing to do with me.
Not anymore. There was a lady who changed I'm not sure what all, but caught some heat initially when she tried to pass herself off as black (comical when you look at her younger pics). But like with the rest of it, you're not allowed to express a negative opinion about that either now. She sits in on news network panels all the time now, giving her "black" perspective. Maybe these guys consider skin color a "birth abnormality" too, like the existence of one's sex organs.
I really don't understand the point of this silly assertion? So.. what? Do you want the 'pariah' of being gay/transgender back into our mainstream culture? Is that what you desire? Other than this, I don't see what point you are tying to make? I mean are there a significant class of humans being ostracized because they 'switched races' that I don't know of?
the difference is that woman was lying to people about her race and her family background. she went around telling people her dad was black. i could see a parallel there if a transgendered person was lying about being transgendered.
For the bigoted peeps, it's important to know that although the scientific community is largely against your argument, it doesn't even matter if there wasn't a scientific argument to be made. Let's take your assumption and say this person is just ACTING in a way that puts them in a group that's routinely discriminated against and that is SO *****ing oppressed that the suicide rates are astronomical. It's still none of your business. It's none of the dad's business either if he has a problem with it, especially if he's displaying this kind of behavior. It doesn't matter what you think. You don't own your kids when they're kids nor when they grow up. That's the bottom line. Also, it's hilarious that Dei is acting exactly like a conservative Muslim right now.
By starting these threads and posting again and again his distaste for gays it helps him justify his own homosexual feelings. If he hates gays so much how in the world could he actually be homosexual himself?
I think if it is in fact a mental disorder like other delusions, the outlook is far better. Delusions can be cured with some success. Having a "man's body" and "woman's brain" cannot be cured. The barbaric means of making men superficially more like women through surgery and hormones is horrific. It also doesn't improve outcomes. For these reasons I find it weird that it is insulting to say a person is mentally sick when being "trans-gendered" is a far worse situation all around.
I'm glad that the OP made this thread. It's always good when dumbass people with backwards views expose themselves. They deserve ridicule and mockery.
nice, tolerant, and smart apparently. for those who take dei seriously, here's another one of his gems: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=192788&highlight=smart+homosexuals methinks doth protest too much. closet homosexual guaranteed. g-14 classified.
Unlike transgenderism, being gay is not being delusional about one's biology. We wouldn't indulge or accommodate someone's biological delusions about what race/species they are, but for some strange reason, with gender we are all expected to play along. Like with a child playing pretend. Doesn't mean we need be cruel to them, but we also need not indulge their fantasies (given the suicide rate among them, accomodation probably does more harm than good)
The rational side of me believes those suicides were more because of ostracization than being 'accepted'... but I'm just using common sense. Science isn't always common sense so do you have any evidence of your claim?
I really don't understand the point you are trying to make by mentioning race/species? Race as we define it isn't science. Being Black in america is a complete social construct, proven by the fact that many mulatto people consider themselves Black... With sex it isn't so clear and as we go along and advance it will become even less clear. As I always tell you schmucks, there are transgender models, the only thing they are missing are working reproduction tools which may be possible one day and then what? Any ways, no one is asking you to play along. Just let them be. Is it really that hard for some of you conservatives to let people be? The suicides are because the people that they thought loved them turn on them and they have no where left to go. The suicides are not for people that happily transition over and live their lives.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/radical-homophobia-a-modern-sickness_us_57886356e4b0b107a240b740 It is sad that people like the OP, the father in the Dr. Phil video and members of ISIS suffer from the disease of homophobia.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/mic...atrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change Pretty sure Johns Hopkins were among the first to do the surgeries. Now they don't do them. There is also a difference between someone like Jenner who got off sexually from dressing like a girl, and people who are younger and feel like their body is the wrong one, which is closer to other mental illness. The bottom line is, if the surgeries don't improve outcomes, don't do the surgeries. We can all agree it doesn't "fix" someone if transgender can actually exist. If evidence changes and surgery improves outcomes, even if it is some type of delusional disorder, then fine do the surgery while exploring more psychotherapy options.
Did you see the post I quoted? He stated that the high suicide rate of transgenders is most probably due to accommodation than ostracization. Now, do you believe this statement personally?
Surgery itself doesn't solve much of anything concerning how people treat you. The bigger issue is always how do people react to others view and treatment of them. Surgery is an extreme step. I don't think it's any surprise that people who take that extreme step is more prone to suicide.
Let me ask you guys. Should old men who think that they are 6 year old girls can/should be allowed to be that? Do people who think that they shouldn't have their limbs or sense of sight should be allowed to cripple themselves? Because they exist. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...ender-SIX-YEAR-OLD-girl-named-Stefonknee.html http://news.nationalpost.com/news/c...-like-impostors-in-their-fully-working-bodies So does that mean the biologically 50 yr old man can chose to sleep with underage boys in a few years, or share beds with underage girls- Or sleep with them if (**** I can't believe I'm saying this) ZE decides ZE wants to be a lesbian? So should the trans-abled be allowed to get disability insurance even though they have chosen to be disabled? Should we throw out the medical term "delusions" altogether because we cannot say that a person's culture is a tangible entity? Should we break our own reality, and the reality of medical professionals, to accommodate for these people? Ladies and gentlemen. The year is 2016, and we are headed down an interesting path.
