1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[Official] Angels @ Astros

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Jun 20, 2016.

  1. Houstunna

    Houstunna The Most Unbiased Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2013
    Messages:
    33,235
    Likes Received:
    24,202
    Maybe to get him some work... hadn't pitched in 5 days.

    I've never trusted Sipp though. Even when he 0 ERs, there seems to be drama involved. Springer robbed that GS vs TEX last season with Tony on the mound.
    ____

    TWO different bars tonight... Angels broadcast was shown both times... lol and smh
     
  2. Prize Closet

    Prize Closet Rookie

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2015
    Messages:
    747
    Likes Received:
    1
    You know who would be a great Lefty arm in the bullpen? Josh Hader :(
     
  3. Nick

    Nick Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 1999
    Messages:
    48,095
    Likes Received:
    14,321
    Apparently you missed September and the playoffs, where he really was the only reliable reliever.

    Perhaps he needs more regular work, as you suggested.
     
  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 1999
    Messages:
    36,288
    Likes Received:
    26,639
    Not sure why mlb.com and espn both show Neshek with a save. According to the rules, he didn't qualify.
     
  5. NIKEstrad

    NIKEstrad Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2000
    Messages:
    10,058
    Likes Received:
    3,774
    Fun fact: Kole Calhoun won a gold glove last year. He has 4 errors this year -- 3 have come against the Astros.
     
  6. Sydeffect

    Sydeffect Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2010
    Messages:
    5,919
    Likes Received:
    442
    This isn't related to the Astros, but Red Sox apparently inquired about getting Gerrit Cole or Jose Fernandez. They were told they would have to give up one of Boggarts/Betts.
     
  7. HTOWNTAKEOVER

    HTOWNTAKEOVER Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2016
    Messages:
    816
    Likes Received:
    15
    thats basically the same as us giving up correa/springer. forget that lol
     
  8. ThaShark316_28

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2007
    Messages:
    4,012
    Likes Received:
    130
    His worst plays defensively last year? Vs the Astros.
     
  9. sealclubber1016

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    Messages:
    19,145
    Likes Received:
    27,922
    Chance to get back to .500 tonight, and only 4 games out of the 2nd wild card spot. While certainly not where we hoped to be starting the year, we're very much in the mix to make the playoffs.

    Gomez appears to be completely out of whatever stupor he was in to start the year. And while he hasn't come close to his elite defensive rep, his defensive WAR is still in the positive territory. Would be like a huge midseason trade if he hits like the guy he's been the last 4 years.

    Fister was awesome yet again. I've been very down on him since I saw his terrible velocity to start the year, but he has been a savior thus far. We would still be some deep s**t if he wasn't so awesome.
     
  10. Nick

    Nick Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 1999
    Messages:
    48,095
    Likes Received:
    14,321
    I'm more excited about Correa looking more and more locked in with each AB's (drawing walks and hitting with power), and Keuchel's peripherals improving with each and every start.

    With as much individual struggling that this team has had to weather (haven't even touched on Giles, McHugh, LMJ, or the 1B/DH black hole), they are very much in the thick of the race with a lot of aspects looking to trend upwards.

    Also, the Rangers can't possibly continue to win every single 1 run game, can they?
     
  11. tmacfor35

    tmacfor35 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2008
    Messages:
    22,972
    Likes Received:
    12,990
    To be honest,

    They somehow have a great bullpen, but as I've stated there luck will change in second half, or in the playoffs.
     
  12. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 1999
    Messages:
    23,931
    Likes Received:
    14,002
    He's playing a lot better, but his K% is still a lot higher than normal (small sample size caveat) leading me to think he's still only maybe 80% of what he was last season.
     
  13. Nick

    Nick Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 1999
    Messages:
    48,095
    Likes Received:
    14,321
    Can't figure out if you're saying the somehow great bullpen's luck will change and they'll become bad.... Or you're giving the bullpen the bulk of the credit for keeping them in the race (which would be totally accurate... Along with Altuve being Altuve and Springer being one of the most complete players in baseball).
     
  14. cangrejero51

    cangrejero51 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2014
    Messages:
    4,920
    Likes Received:
    44
    Saves:
    Rule 10.20 in the Official Rule Book states:
    Credit a pitcher with a save when he meets all three of the following conditions:
    (1) He is the finishing pitcher in a game won by his club; and
    (2) He is not the winning pitcher; and
    (3) He qualifies under one of the following conditions:
    - (a) He enters the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches for at least one inning; or
    - (b) He enters the game, regardless of the count, with the potential tying run either on base, or at bat, or on deck (that is, the potential tying run is either already on base or is one of the first two batsmen he faces; or
    - (c) He pitches effectively for at least three innings. No more than one save may be credited in each game.

    For me he did saved the game, but not according to the rules.
     
  15. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 1999
    Messages:
    36,288
    Likes Received:
    26,639
    Thus, my confusion as to why they were not only crediting him with a save in both the box score and in the write-up of the game. However, overnight they removed the save from his stats as well as the write-ups.
     
  16. juicystream

    juicystream Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    29,286
    Likes Received:
    5,399
    We've been very fortunate with him, but no question he has been hugely important. He's basically what Colby Lewis has been for the Rangers.

    Keuchel's FIP, xFIP, and SIERA are between 3.32 and 3.78. While we need better than that from Keuchel (unless someone steps into an ace role), those are the numbers of a guy that you should be able to count on. McHugh is also between 3.69 and 3.98. Definitely gives me hope those guys will turn it around.
     
  17. rocketpower2

    rocketpower2 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    11,030
    Likes Received:
    2,393
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Astros?src=hash">#Astros</a> vs <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Angels?src=hash">#Angels</a> - Tues<br><br>Danny Worth in at DH...Gattis at C...Marisnick in LF. <a href="https://t.co/mqVgAaNtL6">pic.twitter.com/mqVgAaNtL6</a></p>&mdash; Angel Verdejo Jr. (@ahverdejo) <a href="https://twitter.com/ahverdejo/status/745346728518311938">June 21, 2016</a></blockquote>
    <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     
  18. The Beard

    The Beard Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2012
    Messages:
    10,426
    Likes Received:
    5,686
    Like this lineup a lot tonight

    Let's get back to .500!
     
  19. HTOWNTAKEOVER

    HTOWNTAKEOVER Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2016
    Messages:
    816
    Likes Received:
    15
    seeing the angels lineup tonight. No Pujols. Just imagine if Trout was out. They seriously by far would have the worst lineup in MLB. lol
     
  20. stobbartjohn

    stobbartjohn Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2007
    Messages:
    2,211
    Likes Received:
    50
    He was talking about Texas I think
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now