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[ESPN Insider] Todd McShay Mock 3.0

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  1. BrownBeast99

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    I agree. I say target Henry, fill that gaping hole at TE, and grab a speed receiver later on after some O-line/D-line depth. I think we can get by with Hopkins/Strong/Shorts, along with a mid-round draft pick or a cheap FA as 4th receiver. Solidifying TE would be huge for this team.
     
  2. No Worries

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    This.

    The Texans want an above average starter if not an allstar, no matter the position. If that is a wide receiver, so be it.
     
  3. Commodore

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    ^^^

    this
     
  4. justtxyank

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    I think people who think we are fine on defense are sadly mistaken and I think people who think on offense we just need a speedy wr are equally mistaken.
     
  5. El_Conquistador

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    I agree in theory with BPA, however with one caveat: Given the salary cap, you want to diversify your salaries such that you do not have an extreme imbalance at any position group. Because trades of players are difficult, I think spreading the dollars around by position is more important than it is in the NBA or MLB.
     
  6. Nook

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    This.... You don't fix a mediocre team with a mediocre record of drafting by signing a few players and assuming players drafted this year will be good picks and contribute this same season.

    There is a track record with these same decision makers, and this is the NFL where depth and drafting matter a whole lot.
     
  7. Scolalist

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    1.0

    Rd 1 Corey Coleman
    Rd 2 Karl Joseph, SS, West Virginia
    Rd 3 Anthony Zettel, DE, Penn State
    Rd 4 Antwuan Woods, NT, USC
    Rd 5 Connor McGovern, G, Missouri
    Rd 5 Tyler Higbee, TE, W Kentucky
    Rd 6 Demarcus Ayers, WR, Houston
     
  8. Rudyc281

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    Glad you ain't making the decisions lol
     
  9. gucci888

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    With the rookie pay scale, I don't think we should worry too much about this. At #22, the picks won't be making very much at all. Also, I think spreading the dollars in the NBA is much more important than the NFL. While trades aren't as prevalent in the NFL, the non-guaranteed contracts allow teams to just cut ties when guys aren't worth their salary anymore. A bad NBA contract and absolutely kill your team.

    A really good draft pick/class can give a team a lot of flexibility for 3-4 years. Obviously it will be difficult to resign those players but that's a good problem IMO.
     
  10. coachbadlee

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    Yuck!
     
  11. Nimo

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    They have a 1st round d-lineman, o-lineman, cornerback, wide receiver, and linebackers. They're due for a 1st round TE or Safety.
     
  12. justtxyank

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    I don't think there is a worthwhile first round tight end and I don't think the highly regarded safeties are good enough in coverage to take in the first
     
  13. Nimo

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    The Texans 1st round draft board usually looks very different from what the "experts" think.
     
  14. Bobbythegreat

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    Even then, this is an especially weak TE class. In the past, I've called for first round TE's but I just don't think you could justify it this year.
     
  15. houstonstime

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    I'm still sold on Tyler Boyd. 4.4-4.5 isnt that much slower, and he doesnt drop the ball, period. Broke almost all of Fitzgeralds PITT records. And if we can get him in a later round then we can get a D-line or O-line in the first.

    Pretty much I wont be upset with picking any position in the first except QB, CB, K, P.
     
  16. zeeshan2

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a> hold private workout with Minnesota’s Eric Murray <a href="https://t.co/kFHJQzh0AV">https://t.co/kFHJQzh0AV</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Gophers?src=hash">#Gophers</a> <a href="https://t.co/HS9AKwg3zR">pic.twitter.com/HS9AKwg3zR</a></p>&mdash; PDS (@PatDStat) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatDStat/status/714455245200470019">March 28, 2016</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Gophers?src=hash">#Gophers</a> Briean Boddy-Calhoun workout for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a> <a href="https://t.co/STYxY6eR6c">https://t.co/STYxY6eR6c</a> <a href="https://t.co/I6uiOseBa2">pic.twitter.com/I6uiOseBa2</a></p>&mdash; PDS (@PatDStat) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatDStat/status/714456799873773568">March 28, 2016</a></blockquote>
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  17. Ericstocracy

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    I think the 1st pick could only be a WR, D-line, or O-lineman. No TE in this draft has a 1st RD grade. Only one safety of any kind has a 1st RD grade. Neither of those positions have value in the first. You would be over drafting a player, where you could fill needs just as important with a player that would have much more potential/and who is already better.

    I'm all for filling on of the 3 positions I mentioned in the first, and work down from there. With the O-line being the least important of the WR, D-line, and O-line needs.

    The D-line to me has the most important needs. You've got Watt, and Wilfork on possibly his last year in the league. You don't have a starting DE opposite Watt, and not a soul to replace Wilfork. Every other defensive lineman is a rotational player, or is playing out of position. And those rotational guys really boil down to just having Covington, who himself isn't a NT even though they insist on acting like he is.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Insider Buzz: 4 Teams Eyeing Braxton Miller in Round 1; Texans Highly Interested <a href="https://t.co/SYp4w9svj7">https://t.co/SYp4w9svj7</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/BleacherReport">@bleacherreport</a></p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/714563452543479808">March 28, 2016</a></blockquote>
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  20. zeeshan2

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    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000648499/article/scout-hunter-henry-is-drafts-most-complete-tight-end-in-years?campaign=tw-nf-sf23285688-sf23285688

     

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