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Official Fire McHale Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by FTW Rockets FTW, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. Hmm

    Hmm Member

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    Why even bother to continue replying to this man... From his sterile numerical perspective Hakeem's 93-95 squad, MJ's bulls, and would've won championships with Jason Kidd at the helm... So, the Shaq/Kobe Lakers couldn't win it with Del Harris, or Kurt Rambis... No matter how much Shaq and Kobe may credit much of their success to Phil, jtr will insist their opinion over their profession is wrong... and they could've easily won it with Del Harris or Kurt Rambis if they had A.C. green and Ron Harper to work with...
     
  2. imaginedragons

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    from SI: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1198491/4/index.htm

    "Most important, he's (Tim Duncan) allowed Popovich to coach him. For 15 straight seasons Pop has gone after his franchise player in practice. We're talking neck veins bulging, spittle flying, a Gatling gun of obscenities. And all Duncan has done is stare back, absorbing it. "He hasn't always liked it," says former teammate Sean Elliott, now a team announcer, "but he takes it. You know how important that is for the rest of the team to see?"

    it's not simply about the changing of the responsibilities of the head coach. As the title says - head coach - he should act in ways that will earn him the respect of the entire team, and allow each player from star down to scrub, to follow and buy in. if Mchale does not admonish Harden for not following plays or instructions or playing lazy D, how can you expect other players to fall in line? the fact that Harden repeatedly does the same thing 2 years running only shows that the "head" coach here has no control over his star player.

    the Pop-Duncan tandem has worked because both are mature enough to realize that one needs the other for the whole team to be successful. you can't just wonder forever if "is it Pop" or "is it Duncan" who makes them winners, because it obviously is both. Duncan is there in the middle of it all and he himself acknowledges it, so it is quite ridiculous for people like jtr typing in forums to say players are 95% of the reason for any success and head coaches are imamterial.
     
  3. houtown

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    I have a feeling that most other coaches, Gm's , and executives think "well, look at the players phil jackson had. Anyone could win with talent like jordan or kobe," when its just not that simple. It takes a special talent to coach talent. Its easier in some sense to coach players who are underdogs and are not expected to do much, being they are more apt to listen and do whatever you say. Its harder to coach a superstar because they are more apt to differ, go along with their inflated ego, or give into the pressure of having to win without proper guidance e.g tracy mcgrady. The ability to balance a superstars mindset and create an environment for him to evolve naturally within a team concept is essential for success. If not handled properly, your talent basically goes to waste without proper management. So if mchale, morey, or anyone else thinks it's easy to just have talent, put them out there, run up, down, win, they will have another thing coming, and end up being disappointed, or blaming there failures on something else. Its harder to coach superstar talent than most people might think.
     
  4. count_dough-ku

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    It depends on how the Rockets do in the playoffs. I'm assuming they make it to the postseason of course. If they finish out of the Top 8, no way in hell does McHale come back. If they lose in the first round, I'd say there's at least a 50/50 chance he's gone. If they make it to the 2nd round or farther, he'll be back for sure(and in fairness, would probably have earned another year).
     
  5. SF3isBack!!

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    "He didn't really know all the X's and O's, but he had a good assistant coaching staff that was helping him out with a lot of plays," Carter said. "He kind of let us run whatever we wanted. He was trying to draw plays, and it was like a little Etch A Sketch. Like a kid just messing around. He just gave the clipboard to the assistant coaches sometimes."

    Informed of those comments before Wednesday's game, McHale said he definitely comes from the seat-of-the-pants school of coaching.

    http://www.twincities.com/timberwolves/ci_11189664
     
  6. spdngyns69

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    A players coach, but a clueless one nonetheless. ISO, ISO, ISO....
     
  7. Roxnostalgia

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    Where is the Unofficial Fire Mchale thread?


    The officialness of this thread...way over my head, brehs.
     
  8. bingsha10

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    Half of coaching is setting the tone and the attitude. Sloppy play is indicative of the coach 9 times out of 10 because a coach who doesn't tolerate that sort of crap isn't going to keep players who indulge in it.
     
  9. Raven

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    Just curious, replace McHale with? Let's hear some names.
     
  10. SF3isBack!!

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    George Karl, Nate Mcmillan.
     
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    Carl had cancer..... there is a risk.

    Let's at least give McHale a veteran bench and see what he can do with it before calling out for his head.
     
  12. SF3isBack!!

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    George Karl could outcoach Mchale from the hospital.
     
  13. Billionzz

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    Your right, I'm not saying I want Karl, but he is so much better than Mchale it's ridiculous.
     
  14. RiceRockets

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    Would definitely be happy with Karl, having said that I'm not one of those that think it's the end of the world having McHale.
     
  15. SF3isBack!!

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    We only win games when Harden's ISO Ball works. When it doesn't we lose to ****ty teams. We need an actual system.
     
  16. aurocketfan

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    Just because we won today doesn't mean Mchale gets a pass. He's still the problem going forward. However, it would be difficult to remove him unless we go on a 0-10 losing streak which is impossible. Though he's definitely gone if this team doesn't get past first round or gets smashed in second round.
     
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    Maybe it is bad time to bring this up..
    Do we all agree Mchale is not a champion coach?? Why dont we get a new coach and give him some time to gel the games and the boys? why wasting time on Mchale or are we just waiting for the right time to let him walk?
     
  18. SF3isBack!!

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    I agree and I have no answer.
     
  19. Tristan_fiore

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    Can we just get JVG back? This team needs a defensive culture along with an actual playbook. JVG is the perfect fit.
     
  20. Billionzz

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    I would love to have JVG back. Is there as worse coach in the NBA than Mchale?
     

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