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Trump's coronavirus response

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Two Sandwiches, Mar 13, 2020.

  1. biina

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    You hope in vain.

    It will continue to be about Trump's fragile ego, and, his political and financial interests.
     
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    Because it wasn't broken and instead he was focused on building a vanity wall?

     
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    It sounds like you are talking about expectations here.

    I expected that it would eventually be here (given there is no such thing as a "global pause" button). I expected that we would be prepared for that. I expected that if it gets out of hand, we are prepared for that also. I expected we have plan for the worst-case scenario (what we are seeing now is NOT the worst-case scenario). I have high expectations of our ability and of our government.

    I expected Taiwan to be hit hard. I expected other Asian countries to also be hit hard.

    Taiwan, Singapore, South Korea (which did get hit hard) are some of the democracy that handled much better than what i expected them to. Many lessons to be learned from them in live time and after all of this is over.

    Seattle was the first wake up call for me that we might be completely un-, no, none prepared. It got worse and worse after that --- my high expectation was misplaced. I, myself, was not prepared (I knew the danger of this virus but it was a personal choice due to my high expectations) before Seattle. Right at that time, I started my prep and told all my family to no longer take this lightly. We do have a small essential customer-facing busn and we could not afford to not be prepared. So we drew up plans over the next few weeks and were prepared. I don't think it's too much to ask that our gov with all the tools and resources at hand would be much more prepared.

    ps. it looks more and more like we did have at least a pretty detailed war plan on the shelves but we didn't have the right people in place to respect those plans that drew from many past lessons and to execute them.
     
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    Because this time he didn't "go with his gut", or not listen to political advisers, or not decide based on how many votes he would get... yes, he made the right decision to listen to his medical experts and dropped the dangerous idea to "reopen" America on Easter.

     
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    Are you making the point that there is a difference between listening and hearing?

    If not, could you pass what you are smoking because it is some primo sh*t.
     
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    Fortunately trump continues to feel the need to let people know what is most important:





    And btw, always an opportunity to defend the mother country...
     
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    The reporter follows up with this today...

     
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    Those familiar with the 1918 Spanish Flu could fathom.

    But ...

    1918 is a long time ago.
    We all get the flu every once in the while and do not die.
    There are not a lot of experts on global pandemics.
    There are not a lot of "Monday morning QBs" on global pandemics.
    Humans are incredibly bad at evaluating risk.
    Some do not understand science and do not value it (or better said only selectively value it).
    Natural selection can be a b****.
    etc.

    What we all now know ...
    * There are not enough ventilators to cover the herd immunity approach
    * We need to flatten curve, so that everyone who needs a ventilator can get one.
    * There are no FDA approved CV therapeutics
    * FDA drug trials for CV therapeutics will take months if not years
    * There are no CV vaccine
    * A CV vaccine will take 18+ months to develop

    Social distancing is all that we got to flatten the curve, which allows our hospital to not be overwhelmed and which gives time for therapeutics and vaccines to be developed. Politicians who ignore the social distancing advise, for political reasons, deserve what they get.
     
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    Rick Wilson GOP strategist an interesting article for Jorge, Bigtexx and the gang. https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/ri...-cheering-on-his-early-coronavirus-denialism/

    “But COVID-19 is coming to pay a house call they won’t soon forget, and the damage in some of the places in this country where the Trump-Fox party’s support is the most passionate and unwavering will be staggering,” Wilson warned

    “No, MAGAs, this isn’t a disease of the degenerate socialist coastal elites states. The coronavirus doesn’t see this through the lens of Flight 93 Trumpism; it’s about to scythe through red states, red districts, red towns, and red neighborhoods while giving no ****s what’s on Fox, MAGA Twitter, or on the local Sinclair agitprop outlet.
     
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    It is VERY telling when you have the President of the United States reaching out to Alex effing Rodriguez for advice on how to handle a global pandemic, and all you have are 2 or 3 responses (by my unofficial count). It reflects how we have now been conditioned to expect very, very "questionable" decisions by those that are supposed to lead us. And "questionable" is about as nice a word that I can come up with.

    In ANY other time with ANY other president, this would be headline worthy. Now? It's a small footnote that isn't even the most "questionable" thing that the president did within that last hour.

    Un-freaking-believable.

    Our country needs better leadership. We should demand it. At this point, I don't even care what part of the political spectrum the next president is, I simply want him or her to be BETTER. The bar is so inconceivably low, we should ALL be embarrassed.
     
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    Yup. I could not have said it any better.
     
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    That is bullshit, if we have that many deaths he has done a **** job. They knew about this in January and sat on their ****ing hands

    Democratic hoax he called it.

    Thanks for voting for a ****ING moron!!

    DD
     
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    I agree it would be stupid to brag of only 100K dead Americans on the campaign trail but given that the worst case projection is over 2 million only 100K would be an achievement.
     
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    who and when was that projected?
     

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