This cherry-picking post is just as annoying as those who cherry-pick Morey's good moves as GM, ignore the bad, and claim he's a "genius," a great GM and a "playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers." The truth is, he has made plenty of bad decisions to go with the good. He's an above-average GM at best. I think overall we're lucky to have him, but let's not get carried away.
This was a JVG thing. Drafting has never been a high point Spurs is a good example Golden State is not . . . . Rockets never had draft picks as high as Golden State had Rocket River
Hmmmmm. Not sure who you are but thanks for the free rent. I’ve heard that love and hate are basically the same thing. Lots of love in your post for sure.
I wanted OP to make some good points but damnit he stuck the Sura thing in lol. Alston was the PG, sura had the leg injury or w.e and never came back
THIS is where I stopped reading. Clutch actually made it further in the post than I did. Morey and JVG collaborated on personnel. So that era isn't something you take into consideration. What Morey managed to do with Yao & T-Mac post-JVG was amazing. He put pieces around them that could have won the title (Artest year) but also found a way from underneath both. They were both great players but... let's be honest. In reality they were 2 max contract guys that sat on the sidelines in suits. They hamstrung Morey's ability to maneuver. Then there was the no-tanking mandate from Les. Morey had to find ways to win when either/or Yao + TMac inevitably got injured.
Spoiler Spoiler YAO/T-MAC ERA May 23, 2007: HIRED Rick Adelman as Head Coach July 13, 2007: Signed Mike Harris July 20, 2007: Signed Steve Francis February 26, 2008: Signed Bobby Jones(10-day) March 7, 2008: Signed Justin Williams(10-day) March 8, 2008: Signed Mike Harris March 21, 2008: Signed Loren Woods July 10, 2008: Signed Brent Barry September 29, 2008: Signed Von Wafer March 3, 2009: Signed James White June 14, 2007: Traded Juwan Howard to Minnesota for Mike James & Justin Reed July 12, 2007: Traded Vassilis Spanoulis & a 2009 2nd round pick to San Antonio for Luis Scola & Jackie Butler February 21, 2008: Traded Kirk Snyder & a 2010 2nd round pick to Minnesota for Gerald Green February 21, 2008: Traded Mike James & Bonzi Wells to New Orleans for Bobby Jackson, Adam Haluska & a 2008 2nd round pick; Traded Malick Badiane to Memphis for Sergei Lishouk; New Orleans traded Marcus Vinicius to the Memphis Grizzlies. August 6, 2008: Traded Steve Novak to the Los Angeles Clippers for a 2011 2nd round pick August 14, 2008: Traded Donté Greene, Bobby Jackson & a 2009 1st round pick to Sacramento for Metta World Peace, Patrick Ewing & Sean Singletary August 25, 2008: Traded Sean Singletary to Phoenix for D.J. Strawberry August 29, 2008: Traded Patrick Ewing to New York for Frederic Weis December 23, 2008: Traded Steve Francis, cash & a 2009 2nd round pick to Memphis for a 2011 2nd round pick(Did not convey) February 19, 2009: Traded Rafer Alston to Orlando for Brian Cook; Memphis traded Kyle Lowry to Houston; Orlando traded Adonal Foyle, Mike Wilks & a 2009 1st round pick to Memphis June 25, 2009: Traded cash & a 2012 2nd round pick to Detroit for Chase Budinger DRAFT 2007 1-26 Aaron Brooks 2-31 Carl Landry 2-54 Brad Newley 2008 1-28 Donte Greene 2-33 Joey Dorsey 2-54 Maarty Leunen 2009 2-32 Jermaine Taylor 2-34 Sergio Llull 2-44 Chase Budinger Spoiler REBUILD BUT DON'T TANK ERA April 18, 2011: FIRED Rick Adelman as Head Coach June 1, 2011: HIRED Kevin McHale as Head Coach. July 8, 2009: Signed Trevor Ariza August 12, 2009: Signed David Andersen September 3, 2009: Signed Pops Mensah-Bonsu September 30, 2009: Signed Will Conroy & Garrett Temple December 23, 2009: Signed Mike Harris January 28, 2010: Signed Will Conroy(10-day) February 8, 2010: Signed Garrett Temple(10-day) March 2, 2010: Signed Will Conroy(10-day) March 24, 2010: Signed Mike Harris July 20, 2010: Signed Brad Miller August 23, 2010: Signed Ish Smith September 24, 2010: Signed Antonio Anderson March 23, 2011: Signed Mike Harris(10-day) April 11, 2011: Signed Marcus Cousin December 12, 2011: Signed Jeremy Lin December 20, 2011: Signed Jeff Adrien December 24, 2011: Signed Samuel Dalembert February 8, 2012: Signed Greg Smith March 18, 2012: Signed Courtney Fortson March 26, 2012: Signed Earl Boykins April 12, 2012: Signed Diamon Simpson July 17, 2012: Signed Jeremy Lin July 24, 2012: Signed Ömer Aşık August 20, 2012: Signed Carlos Delfino September 18, 2012: Signed Scott Machado September 22, 2009: Traded James White to Denver for Axel Hervelle February 18, 2010: Traded Joey Dorsey & Carl Landry to Sacramento for Hilton Armstrong & Kevin Martin; Traded Tracy McGrady to New York for Jordan Hill, Jared Jeffries & a 2012 1st round pick; New York traded Larry Hughes to Sacramento for Sergio Rodríguez July 28, 2010: Traded David Andersen to Toronto for cash & a 2015 2nd round pick(Did not convey) August 11, 2010: Traded Trevor Ariza to New Orleans; Indiana traded Troy Murphy to New Jersey; New Jersey traded Courtney Lee to Houston; New Orleans traded Darren Collison & James Posey to Indiana December 15, 2010: Traded a 2013 1st round pick to New Jersey for Terrence Williams; Traded Sergei Lishouk to the Los Angeles Lakers; Lakers traded Sasha Vujačić & a 2011 1st round pick to New Jersey for Joe Smith, a 2011 2nd round pick & a 2012 2nd round pick December 15, 2010: Traded Jermaine Taylor & cash to Sacramento for a 2011 2nd round pick(Did not convey) February 24, 2011: Traded Aaron Brooks to Phoenix for Goran Dragić & a 2011 1st round pick February 24, 2011: Traded Shane Battier & Ish Smith to Memphis for DeMarre Carroll, Hasheem Thabeet & a 2013 1st round pick June 23, 2011: Traded Brad Miller, Nikola Mirotić, Chandler Parsons & a 2013 1st round pick to Minnesota for Jonny Flynn, Donatas Motiejūnas & a 2012 2nd round pick March 15, 2012: Traded Jordan Hill to the Los Angeles Lakers for Derek Fisher & a 2014 1st round pick March 15, 2012: Traded Jonny Flynn, Hasheem Thabeet & a 2012 2nd round pick to Portland for Marcus Camby June 26, 2012: Traded Chase Budinger & Lior Eliyahu to Minnesota for a 2012 1st round pick June 27, 2012: Traded Samuel Dalembert, cash, a 2012 1st round pick & a 2014 2nd round pick to Milwaukee for Jon Brockman, Jon Leuer, Shaun Livingston & a 2012 1st round pick June 29, 2012: Traded cash to Dallas; Dallas traded Lamar Odom to the Los Angeles Clippers; Dallas traded Shan Foster to Utah for Tadija Dragićević; Clippers traded Furkan Aldemir to Houston; Clippers traded Mo Williams to Utah July 11, 2012: Traded Kyle Lowry to Toronto for Gary Forbes & a 2013 1st round pick July 11, 2012: Traded Marcus Camby to New York for Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson, Jerome Jordan, a 2014 2nd round pick & a 2015 2nd round pick July 20, 2012: Traded Courtney Lee to Boston for JaJuan Johnson, E'Twaun Moore, Sean Williams & a 2013 2nd round pick; Boston traded Sasha Pavlović to Portland; Portland traded Jon Diebler to Houston DRAFT 2010 1-14 Patrick Patterson 2011 1-14 Marcus Morris 1-20 Donatas Motiejunas 2-38 Chandler Parsons 2012 1-12 Jeremy Lamb 1-16 Royce White 1-18 Terrence Jones
Spoiler HARDEN ERA November 18, 2015: FIRED Kevin McHale as Head Coach; named J.B. Bickerstaff as Interim Head Coach June 1, 2016: HIRED Mike D'Antoni as Head Coach. October 27, 2012: Traded Jeremy Lamb, Kevin Martin, a 2013 1st round pick, a 2013 2nd round pick & a 2014 1st round pick to Oklahoma City for James Harden, Cole Aldrich, Daequan Cook and Lazar Hayward February 20, 2013: Traded Cole Aldrich, Toney Douglas, Patrick Patterson & cash to Sacramento for Francisco García, Tyler Honeycutt & Thomas Robinson February 21, 2013: Traded Marcus Morris to Phoenix for a 2013 2nd round pick July 10, 2013: Traded Thomas Robinson to Portland for Kostas Papanikolaou, Marko Todorović, a 2015 2nd round pick & a 2017 2nd round pick July 13, 2013: Traded Furkan Aldemir, Royce White & cash to Philadelphia for a 2014 2nd round pick(Did not convey) February 20, 2014: Traded Aaron Brooks to Denver for Jordan Hamilton July 15, 2014: Traded a trade exception to Washington for Trevor Ariza; Traded Ömer Aşık, Omri Casspi & cash to New Orleans for Alonzo Gee, Scotty Hopson & a 2015 1st round pick; New Orleans traded Melvin Ely to Washington July 15, 2014: Traded Jeremy Lin, a 2015 1st round pick & a 2015 2nd round pick to the Los Angeles Lakers for Sergei Lishouk September 17, 2014: Traded Alonzo Gee and Scotty Hopson to Sacramento for Jason Terry, a 2015 2nd round pick& a 2016 2nd round pick December 19, 2014: Traded Sergei Lishouk & a 2015 2nd round pick to Philadelphia for Alexey Shved; Traded Troy Daniels, cash, a 2015 2nd round pick & a 2016 2nd round pick to Minnesota for Corey Brewer; Minnesota traded Ronny Turiaf to Philadelphia February 19, 2015: Traded Alexey Shved, a 2017 2nd round pick & a 2019 2nd round pick to New York for Pablo Prigioni February 19, 2015: Traded Isaiah Canaan & a 2015 2nd round pick to Philadelphia for K.J. McDaniels July 20, 2015: Traded Joey Dorsey, Nick Johnson, Kostas Papanikolaou, Pablo Prigioni & a 2016 1st round pick to Denver for Ty Lawson & a 2017 2nd round pick January 22, 2016: Traded Maarty Leunen to the Los Angeles Clippers for Sergei Lishouk & Josh Smith September 22, 2016: Traded Michael Beasley to the Milwaukee Bucks for Tyler Ennis. February 23, 2017: Traded Tyler Ennis & Brad Newley to the Los Angeles Lakers for Marcelo Huertas February 23, 2017: Traded K.J. McDaniels to Brooklyn for cash considerations February 23, 2017: Traded Corey Brewer & a 2017 1st round pick to the Los Angeles Lakers for Lou Williams June 22, 2017: Traded Dillon Brooks to Memphis for a 2018 2nd round pick June 28, 2017: Traded cash considerations to Detroit for Darrun Hilliard June 28, 2017: Traded $75k cash to Atlanta for Ryan Kelly June 28, 2017: Traded cash considerations to Portland for Tim Quarterman June 28, 2017: Traded cash considerations to Dallas for DeAndre Liggins June 28, 2017: Traded Patrick Beverley, Sam Dekker, Montrezl Harrell, Darrun Hilliard, DeAndre Liggins, Lou Williams, Kyle Wiltjer, $661k cash & a 2018 1st round pick to the Los Angeles Clippers for Chris Paul June 28, 2017: Traded $100K cash to Philadelphia for Shawn Long June 29, 2017: Traded cash considerations to Dallas Mavericks for Jarrod Uthoff August 2, 2018: Traded Chinanu Onuaku, cash & a 2020 2nd round pick to Dallas for Maarty Leunen August 31, 2018: Traded Ryan Anderson & De'Anthony Melton to Phoenix Suns for Marquese Chriss & Brandon Knight January 7, 2019: Traded Michael Carter-Williams & cash to Chicago for a 2020 2nd round pick February 7, 2019: Traded a 2020 2nd round draft pick to Sacramento for Iman Shumpert; Traded Marquese Chriss, Brandon Knight, a 2019 1st round pick & a 2022 2nd round pick to Cleveland for Wade Baldwin, Nik Stauskas & a 2021 2nd round pick; Cleveland traded Alec Burks to Sacramento February 7, 2019: Traded James Ennis to Philadelphia for a 2021 2nd round pick February 7, 2019: Traded Wade Baldwin, Maarty Leunen, Nik Stauskas & a 2021 2nd round draft to Indiana for cash July 16, 2019: Traded Chris Paul, a 2021 1st round pick, a 2024 1st round pick, a 2025 1st round pick & a 2026 1st round pick to Oklahoma City for Russell Westbrook February 5, 2020: Traded Gerald Green & a 2020 1st round pick to Denver; Traded Clint Capela & Nene to Atlanta for a 2024 2nd round pick; Atlanta traded Evan Turner & a 2020 1st round pick to Minnesota; Denver traded Malik Beasley, Juan Hernangomez & Jarred Vanderbilt to Minnesota for Keita Bates-Diop, Shabazz Napier & Noah Vonleh; Minnesota traded Jordan Bell & Robert Covington to Houston February 6, 2020: Traded Jordan Bell & a 2023 2nd round pick to Memphis for Bruno Caboclo January 2, 2013: Signed James Anderson January 7, 2013: Signed Patrick Beverley February 25, 2013: Signed Tim Ohlbrecht March 5, 2013: Signed Aaron Brooks July 13, 2013: Signed Dwight Howard July 13, 2013: Signed Robert Covington July 16, 2013: Signed Omri Casspi July 19, 2013: Signed Reggie Williams & Aaron Brooks July 29, 2013: Signed Marcus Camby August 28, 2013: Signed Ronnie Brewer April 10, 2014: Signed Dexter Pittman April 16, 2014: Signed Josh Powell July 14, 2014: Signed Troy Daniels July 18, 2014: Signed Ish Smith July 19, 2014: Signed Jeff Adrien & Joey Dorsey August 27, 2014: Signed Tarik Black September 23, 2014: Signed Kostas Papanikolaou September 26, 2014: Signed Akil Mitchell October 23, 2014: Signed Geron Johnson December 26, 2014: Signed Josh Smith July 9, 2015: Signed Patrick Beverley July 14, 2015: Signed Corey Brewer July 25, 2015: Signed Marcus Thornton August 24, 2015: Signed Jason Terry September 2, 2015: Signed Remi Yusuf September 3, 2015: Signed Will Cummings & Denzel Livingston September 9, 2015: Signed Chris Walker September 17, 2015: Signed Joshua Smith September 25, 2015: Signed Jeremy Tyler November 1, 2015: Signed Chuck Hayes March 4, 2016: Signed Michael Beasley March 9, 2016: Signed Andrew Goudelock July 9, 2016: Signed James Harden July 9, 2016: Signed Ryan Anderson & Eric Gordon July 20, 2016: Signed Nenê July 29, 2016: Signed Pablo Prigioni September 23, 2016: Signed Isaiah Taylor, Gary Payton II, Kyle Wiltjer & Bobby Brown September 29, 2016: Signed P.J. Hairston October 22, 2016: Signed Le'Bryan Nash December 16, 2016: Signed Bobby Brown February 27, 2017: Signed Isaiah Taylor March 10, 2017: Signed Troy Williams(10-day) March 20, 2017: Signed Troy Williams July 6, 2017: Signed Nenê July 6, 2017: Signed P.J. Tucker July 8, 2017: Signed Cameron Oliver July 8, 2017: Signed James Harden July 17, 2017: Signed Tarik Black July 19, 2017: Signed Luc Mbah a Moute July 25, 2017: Signed Troy Williams August 21, 2017: Signed Demetrius Jackson(2-way) September 22, 2017: Signed Chris Johnson September 25, 2017: Signed Bobby Brown September 27, 2017: Signed George de Paula October 13, 2017: Signed Danuel House October 24, 2017: Signed Briante Weber(2-way) & Isaiah Canaan December 28, 2017: Signed Gerald Green January 6, 2018: Signed Demetrius Jackson(10-day) January 15, 2018: Signed R.J. Hunter(2-way) & Markel Brown(2-way) February 9, 2018: Signed Bobby Brown February 12, 2018: Signed Brandan Wright February 14, 2018: Signed Joe Johnson March 24, 2018: Signed Le'Bryan Nash(10-day) March 30, 2018: Signed Tim Quarterman April 11, 2018: Signed Aaron Jackson July 6, 2018: Signed Michael Carter-Williams July 6, 2018: Signed Gary Clark July 7, 2018: Signed Chris Paul July 9, 2018: Signed Gerald Green July 13, 2018: Signed James Ennis July 25, 2018: Signed Isaiah Hartenstein July 27, 2018: Signed Clint Capela August 10, 2018: Signed Rob Gray August 13, 2018: Signed Carmelo Anthony October 12, 2018: Signed Tim Bond October 15, 2018: Signed Vince Edwards(2-way) & Gary Clark(2-way) November 26, 2018: Signed Danuel House December 6, 2018: Signed Danuel House(2-way) December 24, 2018: Signed Austin Rivers January 16, 2019: Signed James Nunnally(10-day) January 21, 2019: Signed Kenneth Faried February 22, 2019: Signed Chris Chiozza(10-day) & Terrence Jones(10-day) March 23, 2019: Signed Chris Chiozza April 7, 2019: Signed Michael Frazier July 16, 2019: Signed Danuel House & Austin Rivers July 18, 2019: Signed Tyson Chandler July 22, 2019: Signed Gerald Green July 23, 2019: Signed Ben McLemore July 25, 2019: Signed Anthony Bennett September 4, 2019: Signed Shamorie Ponds(2-way) September 4, 2019: Signed William McDowell-White(2-way) September 4, 2019: Signed Eric Gordon September 6, 2019: Signed Nenê September 23, 2019: Signed Thabo Sefolosha September 27, 2019: Signed Ryan Anderson & Jaron Blossomgame October 20, 2019: Signed Michael Frazier(2-way) October 21, 2019: Signed Chris Clemons(2-way) December 27, 2019: Signed William Howard(2-way) DRAFT 2013 2-34 Isaiah Canaan 2014 1-25 Clint Capela 2-42 Nick Johnson 2-53 Alessandro Gentile 2015 1-18 Sam Dekker 2-32 Montrezl Harrell 2016 2-37 Chinanu Onuaku 2-43 Zhou Qi 2017 2-43 Isaiah Hartenstein 2018 2-46 De'Anthony Melton 2-52 Vince Edwards 2019 No picks 2020 No picks
Conveniently left out turning Rafer Alston into Kyle Lowry into a lottery pick which was a key component of the Harden trade. "Gifted" James Harden, lol
Sura's last season with the Rockets was 2004-2005. Morey's first season as assistant GM was 2006-2007.
So are we going to completely ignore how Morey totally fleeced the Spurs to get Scola (for V-Span and a 2nd rounder)? How he conned the Grizzlies to snag Lowry (for Rafer Alston in a 3-team deal)? How he robbed the Suns to grab Dragic (along with a 1st-round pick, for Aaron freakin' Brooks)? As for the Harden deal, it's strange to say he was "gifted" James Harden by OKC when Morey was the only GM in the league who had methodically worked his way into the spot where, when Presti decided to pull the trigger, the Rox were the team he called. Apart for acquiring Harden, Morey's best move EVER was immediately dumping Derek Fisher before he had time to take a single pic in a Rockets jersey.
You make assumptions that newbs know Rockets history @Os Trigonum Just assume everyone is a fake fan except for the OGs
Dude, EVERY GM has made bad moves are you serious??? Pat Riley give HASSAN WHITESIDE A MAX. And look at the Heat now. Morey has been an awesome gm. This thread is basically "wah wah, no champion, we losing, you bad"
I'll post the positive aspects of Morey: Drafted Calvin Murphy and Rudy T. Gave Murphy the green light to shoot unless Sura was in the game. Made a great trade to acquire Moses Malone and created the original twin towers concept with Billy Paultz. Made two unexpected trips to the Finals led by Bob Sura at point guard. Surrounded Hakeem with Robert Horry, Kenny Smith, Otis Thorpe (among others) and won the Championship with Sura regulated to bench duty. Made a midseason acquisition to acquire Drexler which propelled them to a second consecutive championship. Sura never played but provided positive enthusiasm from the bench. I believe @Clutch will vouch for these moves.