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James Harden is #2 in RPM

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Air Langhi, Dec 11, 2019.

  1. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    lazy and pregnant, but still 2nd in RPM and averaging almost 40 while leading the league in minutes
     
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    Don't forget to give a shout out to our other player in the top 20 in RPM.

    That's right our boy Rus... I mean Ben McLemore a straight beast.


    Will Barton in #1 in DRPM. That ish looks broken to me lol.
     
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    ESPN's RPM always has way more head scratchers compared to the others. Jayson Tatum and Will Barton are top 5? Out of all these "all in one" plus/minus advanced stats, I think this one is the worst. I've always liked PIPM, and I think RAPTOR is good too.
     
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    He’s on Meth, I seen a meth head outrun a German Shepherd. Harden can play for 60 minutes easy
     
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    Gasp! It came out finally! I was checking it earlier today. Good look.
     
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    Harden can tussle like nobody’s business
     
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    Nah, it just needs more data. Variance is a real thing.
     
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    You're right about that, it does need more data, but I've followed this stat for years, and I've never been a huge fan of it. I may be biased because the formula is such a black box, they don't share their formula or any insight to their methodology. PIPM is totally transparent, and RAPTOR hasn't published their exact formula, but they have written thousands of words describing how it works, which I like. RPM always seems to have a bunch of weird results, even at the end of seasons, that really don't make any sense. And it's hard to justify it when they won't share anything about how the stat works.
     
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    Lebron though, bet all his voters will use this as an argument for his MVP.
     
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    I’m not familiar with PIPM. Who produces that metric?
     
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    Clearly not an MVP candidate though. HAVE YOU SEEN LUCA!!?!
     
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    Ever heard of and if so have any thoughts on TPA by nbamath?

    https://nbamath.com/2019-20-nba-tpa/
     
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    ol’ Bron’s RPM is ridiculous...I’ve never seen an RPM that high at any point in a season
     
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    Preggers without ever giving birth?
     
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    It's a guy named Jacob Goldstein, runs a site bball-index, has also written for Nylon Calculus (another nerdy bball website). You can read about it here and here if you want to know more about how it works. Or more importantly, here's the list for this season so far.

    https://www.bball-index.com/current-pipm/

    I don't know anything about it, I've seen people tweet/post about it because Harden always breaks the graphs, but I don't know anything about how it works.
     
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    What’s going to be funny is that in 20-25 years everyone in the NBA will be raving about Harden. But yet, here and now they scuff at everything he does.

    Harden plays within the confines of the rulebooks. He’s not calling the fouls, he’s not magically making point appear or disappear, unlike the NBA refs.

    He is a bull as he steam rolls into the lane, he is a magician with the basketball, an amazing ball handler, and he has his teams produce wins; unlike what many say there is no gimmicks, just flat out basketball. The 3 point line is for everyone to utilize, if the NBA goes out and says each team can only get a max of twelve 3 pointers a game; then make the change. Make the NBA into the true gimmick it’s become in the hearts of the fans.

    People, unfortunately are easily swayed by other people’s agendas and opinions. Trust your eyes and your knowledge, and you can’t be as easily fooled.
     
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    These stats are just trash especially DRPM. They are even trashier than previous years. They must have changed their formula to the worse.
     

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