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Is James Harden a playoff choker?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clips/Roxfan, Aug 9, 2019.

  1. SamFisher

    SamFisher Contributing Member

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    Good lord, please tell me the secret of playoff building win gaming itude.

    Actually wait no I have a prostate exam I'd rather do now.
     
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    Huge venn diagram overlap between people who think Harden sucks and people who think field goal percentage is still a good stat in 2019.
     
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    Didn't even click on the video.

    This narrative is so worn out and frankly is just getting annoying at this point.

    It's not Harden's fault that he could never get passed the Warriors aka the best team of all time. When he FINALLY got another high level star in CP3 the Rockets ALMOST made it over the hump until Chris blew out his hammy. Now, has he had a few games throughout his whole playoff career that have been ugly? Absolutely. However we can't act like he's some choke artist because that's just not true.
     
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    Yes, trade him for Jeremy Lin.
     
  5. smp

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    Yep. That's my take on it too. Some guys go in to a different mode in the critical elimination games and just will their team to the win somehow. Harden is not one of those guys- yet. He still has time. Hopefully he goes of like Dirk that one year the Mavs won it all. That's what it is going to take for him to win a ring. He will never have the luxury of a stacked team like KD had.
     
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    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    Never said harden was perfect

    He has asthma lung and stamina issues
     
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    I’m just messing with you man and I agree, he needs a better team that’s why I’m glad to a step at least and I acquired a younger superstar :)
     
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    "Every other superstar" goes to another level in the playoffs? I don't think so. The all-time greats do, of course. But it's not like every superstar is able to do this.
     
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    And playing with 2 or more legit supertars make it alot easier
     
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  10. J Sizzle

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    Harden’s not a playoff choker, but it is fair to question whether or not he has that extra *final* gear that guys like Steph/LeBron/Durant/Kawhi has.
     
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    Alot to prove this season. Rockets gonna look silly if they don't beat the Warriors again.
     
  12. vlaurelio

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    Wheren was stephs extra gear when he didnt have superstars kd and klay?
     
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    Are the Warriors really still the issue? Both LA teams, Utah and Denver look more formidable now.
     
  14. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Not a choker but not a leader either.

    DD
     
  15. Deuce

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    This just in......there are 29 TEAMS of *playoff chokers* every season! 29 teams full of losers that didn't win the title. Can you imagine that? What a sport!

    zzzzzzzz
     
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    Who other than Lebron and Kawhi this past season elevates their game? KD’s playoff numbers were noticeably worse than his regular season numbers until he joined a stacked squad in GS and u couldn’t even double him. Curry most certainly does not. So who are all these current superstars that are elevating their game?

    Also, it’s hard to elevate from a level of 36 ppg. Harden plays well in the playoffs, but he doesn’t play like the guard version of Wilt like he does in the regular season, so people claim he’s bad in the playoffs. He just averaged 32, 7, and 7 on 57% TS this postseason.
     
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    Play defense, box out, don’t miss assignments, keep the offense flowing and don’t be so predictable? You can out talent people after that (at least Harden can).

    It’s really not that hard.
     
  18. tim562

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    Yes, Harden is a choker if you put these guys in the Choker category .... Ewing, Barkley, Malone, Stockton, Gervin, Mutombo, Iverson.... Come on man
     
  19. SamFisher

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    You forgot the key to winning basketball - take the shots you make and the ones you miss, don't take as many of.
     
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