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Would the Houston Rockets exist if Steve Patterson didn't resign Hakeem in 1993?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tinman, Jul 21, 2019.

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What happened if Dream didn't resign?

  1. Les moves team to Kentucky cause nobody showed up to watch a Dream less Rockets team

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  2. Les tries to save money and copies the Clippers, moves Rockets to Dallas and shares stadium

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  3. Yao Ming gets drafted by the Mavericks, Les is jealous, moves team to China

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  4. No Championships, No Clutchfans, the fake fans stay on RealGM

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  1. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
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    http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=1993_1150656

    Patterson chronology

    1976-1983 -- Begins Rockets career as part-time worker in ticket sales and other areas.

    1984 -- After earning a law degree from the University of Texas, joins his father, Rockets president and general manager Ray Patterson, in the front office as counsel to the president and marketing director.

    1986 -- Takes control of the team's business operations, installing a computer system to handle ticketing, accounting and player personnel operations.

    Feb. 12, 1989 -- After accepting Houston's bid coordinated by Patterson, NBA holds its All-Star Game at The Summit.

    Sept. 11, 1989 -- Named at age 32 as the Rockets' general manager, succeeding his father in that role and becoming the youngest GM in the NBA.

    Sept. 27, 1990 -- Acquires point guard Kenny Smith from Atlanta along with Roy Marble for Tim McCormick and John Lucas.

    Feb. 21, 1990 -- Acquires starting guard Vernon Maxwell from San Antonio Spurs for an undisclosed amount of cash.

    June 27, 1990 -- Trades the rights to Alec Kessler to Miami for the rights to Dave Jamerson and Carl Herrera.

    July 2, 1990 -- Signs guard Sleepy Floyd to four-year contract; Floyd is released after the 1992-93 season.

    Sept. 3, 1991 -- Negotiates three-year contract with top draft choice John Turner, who fails to stick with the Rockets.

    Oct. 23, 1991 -- Signs Kenny Smith to five-year contract.

    Feb. 18, 1992 -- Fires Rockets coach Don Chaney and names Rudy Tomjanovich as interim head coach.

    March 23, 1992 -- Suspends center Hakeem Olajuwon without pay, claiming he has failed to play when physically able to do so. Olajuwon claims he is suffering from a hamstring injury and is unable to play, and suggests he is unsure if he wants to play for the Rockets if Patterson remains as general manager.

    May 20, 1992 -- Names Tomjanovich as head coach.

    June 24, 1992 -- Despite a chorus of boos from The Summit fans, makes the decision to draft forward Robert Horry, who goes on to become a productive forward in his rookie season.

    March 15, 1993 -- Olajuwon signs a four-year extension with the Rockets worth $25.4 million that places him under contract with the team through 1999.

    July 30, 1993 -- Rockets owner Charlie Thomas completes the sale of the team to businessman Les Alexander.

    Aug. 30, 1993 -- Alexander fires Patterson as Rockets general manager.
     
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  2. xiki

    xiki Contributing Member

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    And yet - there’s so much more to this story.

    Thanks for posting.
     
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  3. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
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    Well the first thing some of these trolls and newb fans have never heard of is OLAJUWON
     
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  4. Nook

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    Steve Patterson was mediocre for the Rockets.... then mediocre or worse at every stop there after.

    Complete nepotism replacing his dad at 32.
     
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    No sir. Also, our 94-95 Rockets players would not be Back to Back CHAMPS if not for Les Alexander
     
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  6. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
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    Fake Rockets fans please leave this thread
    and Delete your account(s)
     
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    I don’t have a real horse in the race in the Les vs. Tilman debate. But Les’s threat to move the team to Louisville a few short years after the championships was a real thing, no matter how absurd it seems now. That was borderline unforgivable.

    Whine all you want about trades and luxury tax, but moving a team is the worst thing you can possibly do to a fan base. Les making that threat definitely tempered any good feelings I may have had about his tenure.
     
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    Do NOT ever say that again!!!
     
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    Huh???
     
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    good post.

    I will say that him wanting to move has nothing to do with the fact that he went for it getting players like drexler.

    He was an a$$hole for wanting to move the same way he is an ahole for not paying barkley.
    My argument with les or tilman is whether they try to put a winning product and go for it. If they can do it under tax then good for them. Les did and besides the list @justxyank put together on tilman im ok with what tilman has done so far.

    Les was an ahole and a good owner in terms if going for it.

    Tilman apparently is an ahole by several accounts and i love that he is going for it getting westbrook.

    Not sure what the background agenda is past that and people are quick to doubt or in case argue dumb semantics that have nothing to do with fact les went for it.

    Op needs a hug
     
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    Steve Patterson, if left in charge, would have had mighty UT in whatever 2nd rate conference UH is in right now, within 5 years.

    *plz add to timeline
     
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  12. tinman

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    Truth hammer dropped
     
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    tinman Contributing Member
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    Do you see now how troll accounts shouldn’t be allowed here ?
     
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    Hakeem was the greatest basketball player on the planet, bar none, from @'93 - '97; and pretty dadgum high on the list for almost 10 years before.
     
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    Would the Tinman exist if Steve Patterson didn't resign Hakeem in 1993?
     
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    This whole place wouldn't exit
     
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    Hakeem is my all time favorite player but 97 is pushing it. From 93-95, Hakeem was certainly the best player, but injuries and age began to catch up with him around 97. 96 thru the end of the second three-peat belonged to MJ roughly 96 to 98.
     
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    I mean let's not get FACTS in the way of delusion

    Rockets won BACK to BACK CHAMPIONSHIPS with Sir Uncle Les Alexander as OWNER
     
    #19 BeardNation13, Jul 21, 2019
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    Cleverly disguised “ Le$ Alexander the Great” thread.


    Clyde- I like it!!!
     
    #20 juanm34, Jul 21, 2019
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