Who is our MLE target?

TheRealAllpro · Jul 12, 2018

Aruba77 said: ↑

I understand how bird rihts work and why they are important, especially to teams about to be significantly over the cap, like Houston. I just dont understand why having Melo's bird rights are that important.
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Because this is the 3rd time Morey has tried to get Melo. Because Morey loves Melo.

rockbox · Jul 12, 2018

sealclubber1016 said: ↑

Why is it that we couldn't do that with Luc this offseason? Was it because he was a minimum player last season.

If you sign a one year MLE deal, that team can sign you to another MLE deal along with a fresh MLE deal to spend on another player?
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We were were trying to sign him using non-bird rights which is 120 percent of last years salary so we wouldn't have to use the MLE.

TheRealAllpro · Jul 12, 2018

Chamillionaire said: ↑

If we get Melo for the MLE, with Ennis and MCW on minimum contracts, it would be hard to say our off season was a failure.
We don't overpay for the likes of Ariza and LMM. We didn't for Parsons and look how that worked out. TRUST Morey. The guy is a genius.
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...and trade Anderson and a first for a valuable, playable rotational player.

Louka · Jul 12, 2018

why is melo so thicc?

peleincubus · Jul 12, 2018

Gorilladunks said: ↑

You have to think beyond one season. Clutchfans loves to think in the moment and this year. If melo works out and hes on the minimum he will only be able to sign for what luc did last year and then youd have to waste your MLE on him next year as your max offer to him. You give melo most of the MLE this year. You can actually offer him 5-6 million next year and still have your MLE. He might not work out, but you have to operate as if he will for longer term planning. Cant just look at the right now. Yes he makes 28 million this year. That was his contract. Next year he is a free agent and you have to be somewhat competitve with an offer.He isnt going to play for the minimum the rest of his career. He opted in this year because he is done with large contracts and it was his last payday year. Id fully expect him to have a decent season with houston and another team offering him their 8-9 MLE non taxpayer next year. If we had an offer of 6 or so million with non bird rights that is a competitive offer for him to stay on a contender.
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He may work out this year at the minimum. But not wanted another year older for more money than that. Which would also preclude the Rockets from having another player with that money.

Nook · Jul 12, 2018

Gorilladunks said: ↑

You have to think beyond one season. Clutchfans loves to think in the moment and this year. If melo works out and hes on the minimum he will only be able to sign for what luc did last year and then youd have to waste your MLE on him next year as your max offer to him. You give melo most of the MLE this year. You can actually offer him 5-6 million next year and still have your MLE. He might not work out, but you have to operate as if he will for longer term planning. Cant just look at the right now. Yes he makes 28 million this year. That was his contract. Next year he is a free agent and you have to be somewhat competitve with an offer.He isnt going to play for the minimum the rest of his career. He opted in this year because he is done with large contracts and it was his last payday year. Id fully expect him to have a decent season with houston and another team offering him their 8-9 MLE non taxpayer next year. If we had an offer of 6 or so million with non bird rights that is a competitive offer for him to stay on a contender.
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Carmelo Anthony will be 35 years old at this time next year.

I don't think anyone is going to be knocked down his door to sign him to a large contract.

BigBum · Jul 12, 2018

I am worried that we might not use MLE. Most of the FAs remaining is unable to outplay their contract.

If we do, our owner might not generate the cash this season.

Nook · Jul 12, 2018

justtxyank said: ↑

Morey loves Melo. He wants to keep him for more than one year. If we sign him to the minimum this year he'd have to play for the minimum basically again next year OR we'd have to use our MLE on him (which will be smaller than other offers.) We already will have to use that MLE if Ennis performs.

Let's be real about the rest of the guys out there. If we add Melo and Ennis and everything goes the way Morey thinks it will go, there are not minutes to be had for someone like Ellington. Morey expects CP3/Harden/Ego/Gerald Green/Ennis and probably Melton to soak up all of those minutes.

We can disagree with why Morey is targeting Melo, but if he's right about Melo and wants to keep him than the MLE is the best bet.
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The Rockets could go a lot of different directions.

They could use a good portion of the MLE to sign D'Anthony Melton to a longer contract if the team believes he will be a strong rotational player over the next 4 or so years.

The Rockets could agree to give Carmelo Anthony the MLE so his buyout from the Thunder is quicker.

The Rockets could end up moving Eric Gordon in a deal and use the MLE to get someone like Wayne Ellington because he is a very good shooter and will take a high volume of 3's replace the 3 point shots that Gordon took.

The Rockets could decide to just limit their tax liability and not use the MLE.

I don't buy the idea that a 35 year old Carmelo Anthony is going to be in high demand for a salary above the MLE next year, but who knows.

I suspect the Rockets may not even know exactly what they will do......... because part of it could be contingent on trades.

BigBum · Jul 12, 2018

Nook said: ↑

The Rockets could go a lot of different directions.

The Rockets could end up moving Eric Gordon in a deal and use the MLE to get someone like Wayne Ellington because he is a very good shooter and will take a high volume of 3's replace the 3 point shots that Gordon took.

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This is the best possible result, good for owner
Generate more cash for next 2 years
Still compete

joshuaao · Jul 12, 2018

BimaThug said: ↑

This, pretty much. A couple of clarifying points:

If OKC waives its right of set-off, the salaries Melo can get over the next three seasons could materially impact his total earnings during that time. Hence, he'll have legit interest in getting paid as much as possible during that time.
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Didn't know teams could waive the right to set-off. Very cool! Always learning something new from your posts

vick · Jul 12, 2018

M E L O.

H-Town Melo · Jul 12, 2018

Nook said: ↑

The Rockets could go a lot of different directions.

They could use a good portion of the MLE to sign D'Anthony Melton to a longer contract if the team believes he will be a strong rotational player over the next 4 or so years.

The Rockets could agree to give Carmelo Anthony the MLE so his buyout from the Thunder is quicker.

The Rockets could end up moving Eric Gordon in a deal and use the MLE to get someone like Wayne Ellington because he is a very good shooter and will take a high volume of 3's replace the 3 point shots that Gordon took.

The Rockets could decide to just limit their tax liability and not use the MLE.

I don't buy the idea that a 35 year old Carmelo Anthony is going to be in high demand for a salary above the MLE next year, but who knows.

I suspect the Rockets may not even know exactly what they will do......... because part of it could be contingent on trades.
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I think with a bounce back season he could get a deal within the range of 10-15M per honestly. That's IF and a huge IF he really bounces back statistically and buys into his role wherever he is. I think he'd take a discount though to stay in Houston if you guys show the promise you showed last season.

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