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  1. GranvilleWaders

    GranvilleWaders Member

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    Call me the glass half full guy but I believe these latest signings have made the Rockets BETTER for the upcoming season! Morey has done it again while not overpaying and instead getting players that fill a need and will outplay their contract mostly on one year deals!
    Most of the media is saying Rockets lost Ariza and Mbah Moute and our premier defense is gone or suffering.
    Who replaces Ariza and his minutes?
    Gerald Green     !!! Let's go to the numbers from last year--

    Ariza 32 // 6'8 // FG%41.2 // 3p%36.8 // RB4.4 // MPG33.9 // STL1.5 // BLK0.2 // $15 Million signed with suns
    Green 32 // 6'8 // FG%40.7 // 3p%36.9 // RB3.2 // MPG22.7 // STL0.6 // BLK0.4 // $2.4 Million signed w Rox

    I'm also gonna leave Ariza's game 7 WCF stat line here for posterity sake:
    Ariza     42 minutes played FG 0-12 // 3p 0-9 // FT 0-0 // BLK 0 - I would argue he cost us game 7 alone!!

    Green will get Ariza's minutes AND have better numbers you watch!

    Who replaces Luc MBah Moute and his VITAL role?
    James Ennis!!     Let's go to the career numbers--
    Moute 31 // 6'8 // PTS 6.4 // FG%44.5 // 3p%33.6 // MPG23.4 // STL0.6 // BLK0.4// $4.3 Million signed Clips
    Ennis 28 // 6'8 // PTS 6.4 // FG%45.4 // 3p%36.0 // MPG20.4 // STL0.6 // BLK0.3 // $3.4 Million signed Rox

    Michael Carter Williams can bring energy off the bench and run the PG. He can't shoot the 3 ball but his defense is pretty high level - lets go to the defensive stats--
    MCW 32 // 6'6 // FG%40.2 // RB4.7 // MPG27.5 // STL1.4 // BLK0.6 // $VET Minimum w Rox

    MCW Defense is statistically better than Trevor Ariza but he can bring the ball up while Harden and/or Paul is on the bench.

    MCW, James Ennis, Gerald Green (7.3 million total) >
    Trevor Ariza, Mbah Moute(19.3 million total)
    Well Done Morey! But not finished yet?!?
     
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    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    I too believe in God performing miracles.

    He can't punish us any worse.
     
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    We gotta see first. Mbah Moute was Shane Battier last season.
     
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    you lie
     
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    The delusion is real!
     
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    It's officially official.

    Case closed.
     
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    Uhhhhhh... okay.
     
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    Not only is God on our side but so are the numbers!!
     
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    i'm not trying to sound like an ass, but this is the dumbest statistical breakdown i've ever seen. Luc was hurt. Here are some other statistics:

    25 min per game
    36% from 3
    elite defense
    7'2" wingspan

    Assuming we resign Capela, as of now we've lost Ariza and Luc and have gained Ennis. There's simply no way anyone can credibly say we are a better team right now. I sincerely hope Ennis breaks out, and i even expect it based on Morey's excellent track record, but as of now (until he proves it this year) Ennis is not > Luc and Ariza. I'm sorry, this is a litmus test for intelligence.
     
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    We had Green AND Ariza. You cant be like, we're better, we have Green...
     
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    Yeah, it's not quire official just yet.
     
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    I think our squad is good but keep in mind that Luc and trevor guarded the likes of the Mitchell , Lillard LEBRON,DURANT, CURRY ,THOMPSON. We dont want to tax PJ so much with switching and helping to where he gets hurt 2. I think Ennis is going to be good for us he just needs to be in better shape and razor focused
     
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    No he wasn't. Shane balled out in the playoffs. Especially when Yao went down.
     
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    Here's what I am seeing. The numbers tell me Ennis shoots the 3 ball as well or better than Mbah moute and steals and blocks are the same. Gerald Green will easily match what Ariza brought to the team. Oh yeah and shoulders once they get strained and stretched never go back to the same it will Always be an issue with him.
     
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    The point being (too), the Rockets wanted to get younger. Ariza and Luc mah Bootay showed signs of decline or injury. We'll miss them yes, but cheaper replacements that might not break down could be the way to go here.
     
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    I watched every game last year..every game. I don't want to research the stats on those matchups but I'm pretty sure neither Luc or Trevor shut those guys down in any way. And then you throw on Ariza's wild swings offensively and he becomes very replaceable.
     
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    Gerald Green is a completely different player from Ariza and unless he becomes something he has never been before, is not someone you can count on to guard the opponents best wing. To put it succinctly, GG is just a spark off the bench, a test the waters hot or cold type of player. A good piece to have, but not one that can replace Trevor.

    I'll reserve judgement until I see some of these new additions, as both Ennis and MCW are not players I've paid much attention to. But I've seen Ariza, and what he brings to the court is much more than you are implying. He was the starting 3 of a 65 win team that was a win away from the finals. He's also been a key piece of a championship team in the past. He might've lost a step, but there is very little evidence that it has been much, as he played big minutes and still chased around elite offensive players last year, all while playing almost every game.

    There is a reason Ariza has so much respect among players and coaches, and was given 15 million dollars for his services. This IS a big blow to the Rockets, no matter how much Moray and the new owner wants to sugar coat it. It might all work out in the end, but right now, as it stands, on paper, it doesn't look like we are better than last year.
     
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