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are the Rockets the most selfish team in the league?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Commodore, Dec 15, 2017.

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  1. Commodore

    Commodore Contributing Member

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    nobody passes less

     
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    our best plays are usually one pass
     
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    Cot damn. Breaking the matrix in 2
     
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    OK, what does "Morey Shot Rate" mean?
     
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    Dat efficiency.:eek:
     
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    When the ball's in the hands of Harden and CP3, the first pass is usually the best one via alley-oop or a wideopen 3.
     
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    I don't care about the number of passes, it matters if the pass leads to points.
     
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  9. Commodore

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    guessing something Haralabob made up, like a Morey shot is a layup or 3
     
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    we pass once then the guy shoots, we don't pass 4 or 5 times before a player gets a shot off
     
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    When you have two of the best play makers in the game, your passes are just more effective. Unlike a team (say Sac) the Chris and James get the team good shots every time they initiate something.

    Example 1: James Harden drives, defense collapse, he passes out, first guy swings, open 3 after two passes.

    Example 2: Justin Holiday intiates, can't beat his man,passes out, gets it back, throws it in the post, post guy can't do anything so dribble hand off back to Justin, run a Pick and Roll, can't get through, throws it back out to some one who heaves a contest 3 after 5 passes.

    I'll take example 1.
     
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    It's partially because of the way we're built, but it is definitely one of the things we need to improve on. We don't move the ball and players enough, which is saving the opponents a lot of energy and we could be getting slightly better shots. I think this will happen as the season progresses, we tend to forget that there was a huge roster turnover.
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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    So, we are talking about 0.4 of a pass from League Average, and 0.9 of a pass from the league lead.

    Fun graphic, but it's pretty obvious that an MDA offense is supposed to trail on passes, and yet, it really isn't by that much.
     
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    Rockets blowing away the competition in points per pass efficiency. :)
     
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    lol at OKC
     
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    Pass more with have turnover. Max suck dick man
     
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    Ah, that's probably it. Instead of the other shot rate stats we see for teams like FTr and 3FAr, you can also choose Midrange Rate or Morey Shot Rate, etc

    Morey Shot Rate would be something like

    (3FA + Layup Attempts + FTA/2) / FGA​

    with FTA/2 using that fraction that TS% uses to account for 3 FTs, And1s and Technical...whatever that fraction is
     
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    passing excessively statistically is just a chance at a turnover.
    probablistically just shoot it, maybe one pass. repeat.
     
    #19 LewLLOYD, Dec 15, 2017
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    Principle Morey only has one hall pass.
     
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