in this scenario 8th seed/45-47 wins rockets with Giannis and Cp3 against 1st seed/65 win GSW superteam
I laid out a bet I'd more than willingly take at a profit to no one but clutch and this site. If your willing to wager against me with uneven odds this is the only way I'm going to make a bet. "In 4 years, will harden lead the rockets to a championship." Is the bet. If they win a championship, @JayZ750 has to pay $50 to the tip jar. If they fail to win a championship, @BigMaloe has to pay $50 to the tip jar. Either accept or say no, I don't need to read another essay of you stating the same thing I have read that you posted earlier in the thread. I get your stance with harden I just strongly disagree. Deal or nah?
I don't know. You keep asking the strangest questions. As if I'm trying to tell you the Bucks are better than the Rockets right now. Or will be. The Bucks are a lot of things beyond just Giannis. Many of which I don't like. Happy to discuss Giannis and the Bucks in a Giannis thread in the NBA Dish. He's relevant in this thread only in the not going to happen hypothetical where Giannis is on the Rockets instead of Harden. Depends on a ton of things. How long have you been watching the NBA? You remember (or know about), I assume, Sonics/Nuggets, or Warriors/Mavs? Surely you know the Rockets won a ring as a 6th seed? The Knocks making the Finals as an 8th. You asked a question. I answered it. I happen to think if this random nitngoing to happen trade did happen the Rockets would still finish top 4 but whatever.
Personally, I think that is more of a wet dream of his to prove his agenda about there being a shred of logic in even considering trading Harden. On a more realistic note, I feel that Green would absolutely shut down Giannis. Klay and KD might have trouble against his sheer power though.
Yes. Deal. It’s the thing I proposed in the first place lol. Please don’t respond with another essay about uneven odds, yada yada. I’ve read it multiple times now and if you didn’t want to take the bet in the first place you didn’t have to.
Still waiting on those Milwaukee wins before I sound the bullhorn. If the playoffs started today they would be the 8th seed, and you know that CLE is going to start rising. James Harden makes the Bucks a 1/2 seed in the East, immediately. He is that good, and CP3 isn't far behind. Really, it isn't close.
1. You're arguing a straw man. Nobody said otherwise. 2. Harden led the Rockets to 41-41 two years ago. Nothing's a given.
1. That's why I wasn't replying to anyone Bud. 2. If Giannis was in the West and led his team to 41-41, it would be the best year of his career my a significant margin, FYI. (It just so happens that it was the worst year of Harden's career by a significant margin). /Thread
To make it a point of emphasis that trading James Harden for Giannis is insanely stupid, in a thread titled "Trade Harden". I would pay to see Daryl Morey's reaction to such a trade. Pretty simple stuff. Anything else you need help with understanding?
Are we still under the delusion that 2016 was all Harden's doing and not the avalanche of bad coaching/bad teammates/bad Dwight we had to deal with that year? I figured these last two seasons made that rather obvious.
I guarantee you DM would consider it, if unconstrained [eg. not answering to ownership, etc.] That a 22 year old Giannis, who is currently probably the #2 MVP candidate in the league, hasn't led his team to 50+ win seasons, when this is his first year at this super stratosphere level, isn't all that enlightening. Anything else confusing you?
Of course not. I'm just replying to the delusion that some are perpetuating here that if you just take Harden and put him on any ole team, especially in the East, he's going to lead that team to amazing feats.
I mean... Basically Harden was "just put on any ole team" (AKA the 2012-2013 Rockets), and they immediately had more success than any team Giannis has been apart of. This is especially apparent when you consider the East is quite obviously worse than the West. This is even more apparent when you consider the Rockets being built around Harden have consistently been one of the top teams in the league, save for 2015-2016. "Amazing feats"? Maybe not. But "much more success than 95% of his peers"? Yes, yes indeed. I would say that if you put Harden on any team in the East outside of the bottom-dwellers, they are immediately a Top 3-4 team in that conference, and I think there is a lot of evidence to support that.
Put simply: in an All NBA draft, who goes first? Giannis or Harden? Easy answer. There’s a reason the Rockets are the 1 seed in the West right now and the Bucks are the 8 seed in the East. The sad reality is that Harden and Curry and Westbrook and Lebron are capable of running an offense as well as being an offensive force. They are singular engines that operate at extreme levels. Giannis is not and never will be. At best he’ll be a better Horford or Aldridge or Gasol. Absolutely capable of being a championship PIECE but not a Championship level CATALYST if that makes sense.
you guys seriously need to get out of your Houston bubble... absolutely the right answer. DM can't consider it. and frankly, Bucks can't really either. The idea that it is a trade DM would laugh at, though... is laughable. Unfortunately as reddit works, without the upvotes, the thread gets lost in the noise... but 50/50... not surprising.... even though according to those in this thread, its "crazy"
isn't 55 wins by himself in the west amazing given the rockets roster around him? only behind super team gsw & spurs with Pops/kawhi/LMA Ahead of Least's star-studded Boston & Cleveland Ahead of star-studded Clippers, OKC with the MVP you don't think Harden can carry the bucks to atleast 55 wins in the East this year?
