Listen... many here think like that but the way the modern Nba has progressed traditional roles have evolved. A traditional pg would actually hinder this team. You see people saying " we cant take the ball out of Hardens hands" and thats true. Harden needs a tall combo guard next to him who can defend shoot and create so both can play off the ball and with it. Harden will be the one who will initiate the offence many times still even with a good pg next to him.
We need a point guard that is going to make PG's play D and is able to run the high PnR. The days of shutting someone down are over. I would prefer Pbev off the bench with Brewer and Dmo or Smith. Imagine Lawson running a layup or alley oop drill with D12 or Smith. So whoever Morey signs, better make Curry play D or it's a waste.
Sergio Llull is so overrated. I honestly hope he doesn't come over here he's trash. Lawson or draft a PG.
Have you not seen how stagnant the offense is when Harden is running it? He doesn't make an offensive move until there's 5 seconds left on the shot clock, we need a true floor general that can shoot and create for themselves and others.
Seems like Llull is priority #1 based on Morey/McHale interviews. Hope he's a success and I hope they still add a shooter.
I'm not sold on Sergio Llull at all. He might be a decent player, but he's not going to be the guy who is going to make a big impact. How many (white) European guards in the NBA can create their own shot? Dragic... are there any others? The Rockets need somebody who can not only create, but can also score points to ease Harden's burden. I don't think Llull is that guy. He's not a game-changer.
I know Lull is good or whatever in spain but i just dont see him transitioning well to the NBA if the Rockets are indeed trying to get him here. He will be a scrub in the NBA IMO
I think Morey views Llull as the point guard version of Pau Gasol. Llulls basketball IQ is off the charts
The off the court issues are a concern, but not enough to make me not want Lawson. The only real issue I have with Lawson is on the defensive end. He cannot guard shooting guards and struggles to guard point guards. Do you want a defensive back court of Harden and Lawson? Has a team ever won a title with a back court that is that poor defensively? If you trade for Lawson, you almost have to resign Beverley. I also think that Sacramento may over pay for Lawson.
I think he can be an okay player... but I see him as an NBA back-up. The Rockets need someone better with NBA experience. I don't like the idea of Llull being expected to be a big contributor right from the start in his first year in the NBA.
I'd love for Sacramento to go after Lawson and Houston can get in on the trade somehow and pick up Darren Collison. I think he would be a great fit.
Do u mean when he has no help with no other playmaker? Yes. And thats why he asked what the fans have been asking. For help. With only Harden the offence got predictable as one would expect.
There is one guy I would consider trading for and might be available ... Greivis Vásquez. A 6'6'' PG/SG that can create for himself and others. He is not an European (white) guard, but fits the bill.
I believe this is correct, simply because he's the best addition from a value standpoint. Guys like Lowry, Lawson, etc., while very good players, may cap us out of making any further moves to improve this roster. If Llull costs us no more than the majority of the MLE, then he's not only a cheap alternative, but also a potential asset. Also keep in mind that Llull is 27, and euro players play significantly less games per season than NBA players. That means if he proves to be an NBA quality player, he should be able to perform into his late 30s. It speaks volumes that the Rockets paid the most cash in NBA history for Llull's rights, have not traded him, and are now actively trying to sign him.
Just because you wouldn't call them one doesn't mean they can't create their own shot. It seems like you were challenging the athleticism and space creation of white european players and all of those guys are athletic, quick, and good enough ball handlers to create space. Plus many Spanish players have been successful in recent history. Llull might not be the answer but I wouldn't doubt him based on the failure of other white european guards. Most black american guards can't create their own shots but there happen to be a lot more to choose from.
Horrible defence too much swag. Too trigger happy. I would consider trading for him a mid second if thats what u mean.
The more I look at it, the more similarities I see between Dragic and Llull. They're about the same height (Llull is actually an inch taller). Athleticism is not that far apart. Go and watch some of Llull's videos. He is not some slow/no-bounce euro. Dude has speed and hops. Both play a very attacking style. Llull is not one to just roam around the 3 point line. Dragic is the better finisher, but Llull has been good around the rim in euroleague. Both excel in and push the fast break. Both can shoot the 3 ball. Llull hit 38% last year and 35% for his career. Dragic 35% last year and 36% for his career. Obviously the NBA is a different animal, but shooting is one skill that seems to translate well (see Mirotic, Teletovic, Bogdanovic, Belinelli, etc.). With Llull, we might be able to get 3/4ths of what Dragic would've given us at a quarter of the price.
