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Offseason trade targets?

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by awc713, Sep 18, 2014.

  1. J.R.

    J.R. Member

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    Yeah, go pick up that Fat Panda!

    Go raid that Giants roster! Peavy, Sandoval, Romo, Morse, Vogelsong!

    Hunter Pence too! Wait, Astros already traded him and he's not a free agent.
     
  2. sealclubber1016

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    After his postseason Sandoval is gonna get grossly overpaid compared to his actual value. His OPS has gone down 4 straight years, he's an average fielder, and he has possible weight concerns. He's a good player no doubt, but he's gonna get paid like a superstar.

    Wouldn't mind raiding that pen though.
     
  3. leroy

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    Possible weight concerns?

    That's like saying Yao might be tall.
     
  4. sealclubber1016

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    Thus far he's played well despite being a fata$$.

    Fat guy + big contract rarely goes well.
     
  5. jev5555

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    If the Phillies are serious, I'd look to trade for Domonic Brown.

    Brown / Fowler / Springer OF could potentially be amazing.

    And sign Chase Headley or Sandoval.
     
  6. juicystream

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    Marisnick will be in our OF. Brown has over 1500 ABs and a total WAR of -1.0.
     
  7. J.R.

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    Below is the complete list of 121 XX B free-agent players, sorted by 2014 team, eligible to negotiate and sign with any club beginning at 12:01 a.m. ET on Tuesday, Nov. 4. Another 32 players may be eligible for free agency pending the option provisions in their Uniform Players Contract (UPC).

    Atlanta Braves
    Emilio Bonifacio
    Ryan Doumit
    Gavin Floyd
    Aaron Harang
    Gerald Laird
    Ervin Santana

    Baltimore Orioles
    Alexi Casilla
    Nelson Cruz
    Kelly Johnson
    Andrew Miller
    Johan Santana
    Joe Saunders
    Delmon Young

    Boston Red Sox
    Burke Badenhop
    Ryan Dempster
    David Ross
    Koji Uehara

    Chicago Cubs
    Carlos Villanueva

    Chicago White Sox
    Paul Konerko
    Matt Lindstrom

    Cincinnati Reds
    Jack Hannahan
    Ryan Ludwick

    Cleveland Indians
    Jason Giambi

    Colorado Rockies
    Matt Belisle
    Michael Cuddyer
    Nick Masset
    Franklin Morales

    Detroit Tigers
    Joba Chamberlain
    Phil Coke
    Joel Hanrahan
    Torii Hunter
    Jim Johnson
    Victor Martinez
    Max Scherzer

    Houston Astros
    Matt Albers
    Jesse Crain
    Jose Veras

    Kansas City Royals
    Norichika Aoki
    Scott Downs
    Jason Frasor
    Luke Hochevar
    Raul Ibanez
    James Shields
    Josh Willingham

    Los Angeles Angels
    Jason Grilli
    John McDonald
    Joe Thatcher

    Los Angeles Dodgers
    Josh Beckett
    Kevin Correia
    Roberto Hernandez
    Paul Maholm
    Chris Perez
    Hanley Ramirez
    Jamey Wright

    Miami Marlins
    Rafael Furcal
    Kevin Gregg
    Reed Johnson
    Brad Penny

    Milwaukee Brewers
    Zach Duke
    Tom Gorzelanny
    Lyle Overbay
    Mark Reynolds
    Francisco Rodriguez

    Minnesota Twins
    Jared Burton

    New York Mets
    Bobby Abreu
    Daisuke Matsuzaka

    New York Yankees
    Chris Capuano
    Stephen Drew
    Chase Headley
    Rich Hill
    Derek Jeter
    Hiroki Kuroda
    Brandon McCarthy
    David Robertson
    Ichiro Suzuki
    Chris Young

    Oakland Athletics
    Alberto Callaspo
    Jonny Gomes
    Luke Gregerson
    Jason Hammel
    Jon Lester
    Jed Lowrie
    Hiroyuki Nakajima*
    Geovany Soto

    Philadelphia Phillies
    Mike Adams
    Kyle Kendrick
    Wil Nieves

    Pittsburgh Pirates
    Clint Barmes
    Francisco Liriano
    Russell Martin
    Edinson Volquez

    San Diego Padres
    Tim Stauffer

    San Francisco Giants
    Michael Morse
    Jake Peavy
    Sergio Romo
    Pablo Sandoval
    Ryan Vogelsong

    Seattle Mariners
    Joe Beimel
    Endy Chavez
    Chris Denorfia
    Franklin Gutierrez
    Kendrys Morales
    Humberto Quintero
    Chris Young

    St. Louis Cardinals
    Mark Ellis
    Justin Masterson
    Jason Motte
    Pat Neshek
    A.J. Pierzynski

    Texas Rangers
    Scott Baker
    Neal Cotts
    Colby Lewis
    Alex Rios

    Toronto Blue Jays
    Melky Cabrera
    Casey Janssen
    Munenori Kawasaki*
    Colby Rasmus

    Washington Nationals
    Asdrubal Cabrera
    Scott Hairston
    Nate Schierholtz

    *Eligible per contract terms
     
  8. Aceshigh7

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    I'm confident the Stros will pick up some mediocre, overpaid player with a low ceiling for growth who might only be a slightly marginal improvement over what they've got now, and point to it as progress, since they're growing payroll. You know, kinda what they did last year.

    Growing payroll is a good sign, but only if it's done wisely, and thus far the Astros have not done that.
     
  9. MrBear1

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    You act as if its all the Astros fault. You do realize that in order to sign a free agent there has to mutual interest right?
     
  10. sealclubber1016

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    Yes, a 19 game improvement is clearly marginal.

    Feldman was a solid rotation pitcher, Fowler was an excellent on base guy, and Qualls was a decided upgrade over the garbage we had last year. None of the guys should hinder long term spending either.

    I would say the Astros spent wisely. Fans are just gonna b**ch about anything they do right now.
     
  11. Rocketman95

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    Wasting your time, buddy.
     
  12. juicystream

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    Sort of like Colin McHugh?
     
  13. moonsh0t

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    Pat Neshek (2yr $8M)
    Andrew Miller (3yr $27M) (New CL)
    Russell Martin (2yr $20M) (Start 3 of 5 games, help young SP)
    Nori Aoki (2yr $10M)

    No need to make a big splash:
    C: Martin
    1B: Singleton
    2B: Altuve
    SS: Marwin (Just keeping it warm for Correa)
    3B: Dominguez (waived or optioned to AAA as soon as Moran is ready)
    LF: Marisnick
    CF: Springer
    RF: Aoki
    DH: Carter

    Bench: Santana, Grossman, Presley, Villar, Castro or Stassi

    SP: Keuchel
    SP: McHugh
    SP: Feldman
    SP: Tropeano
    SP: Appel!

    CL: Miller
    SU: Qualls
    SU: Neshek
    RP: Fields
    RP: Sipp
    RP: Buchanan

    Folty gets more seasoning at AAA.
     
  14. moonsh0t

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    Dang, forgot about Fowler. So if we're keeping Fowler no need for Aoki.
     
  15. DREAM ON!

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    All we need is a solid bullpen
     
  16. Nick

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    I'll take any real off-season news.

    Right now, all we have is that Houston finished dead last of all major media markets in the country (Non MLB cities like San Antonio and Austin included) in ratings for game 7 last night.

    And I know it wasn't because everybody was watching the Rockets...

    The Astros sucktitutde has killed baseball interest in this city...
     
  17. juicystream

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    And Madison Bumgarner
     
  18. xcrunner51

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    All good players but all except for Aoki I can't see the Astros signing (or at those prices).

    -Neshek put up a top 5 reliever performance this year, he'll get more than $4m per year.
    -Miller I wouldn't give closer money without any history of closing. $3m for Qualls being a closer for a not yet contending team is a much better use of funds.
    -Martin is going to get 4 years/50m.
     
  19. juicystream

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    I'll bet Martin gets even more than that.
     
  20. Aceshigh7

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    I wasn't talking about team performance, I was talking about Fowler's performance relative to a generic replacement for him.

    And yes, the Astros made a 19 game improvement, but that was largely on the back of improved pitching. If you really think Fowler made a big contribution to that improvement, you're quite mistaken.

    No problem with Feldman or Qualls.

    Fowler, on the other hand, did not do enough to warrant his excessive salary. You can point to his decent OBP all you want. Other than that, he was the definition of mediocre.

    He would be a 4th outfielder on a contending team.
     
    #180 Aceshigh7, Oct 30, 2014
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