Israeli rabbi says it's ok to kill innocent civilians and destroy Gaza http://972mag.com/nstt_feeditem/israeli-rabbi-its-okay-to-kill-innocent-civilians-and-destroy-gaza/ I'm not sure what the Torah says about this (pretty sure it doesn't say anything about killing civilians) but for a rabbi to come out and say this is despicable. Where is the uproar from ATW, et al?
It's sort of what is to be expected when a group of people elects a terrorist government....Who elects a terrorist government and thinks things are going to get safer? I certainly wouldn't blame Israel if they got tired of dealing with this nonsense every few years and decided to finally boot them all out and just take Gaza. They probably shouldn't have ever given it back to them in the first place...the people who live there would probably be better off now.
So you're saying it's ok to kill over 1 million innocent people, including children, if there is a reason that is legitimate enough?
Yes, I would absolutely say that. However, when you live in a democracy and you elect a terrorist government, you aren't exactly innocent. Also you probably wouldn't have to kill them, just move them away to become Egypt's problem again.
Mostly have issues with Fundamentalists... Be they Muslim, Christian or Jew. Even then every situation is different.
Nice. Considering Hamas have a legitimate enough reason to kill Israeli's (in their minds) and the fact that a legitimate reason is truly objective; I would say you have conceded your opinions entirely on this argument.
How is that not entirely applicable to Israelis? Even more so because Israel has compulsory military requirements. Geezus. You should squirm back to the Texans forum and dazzle them there with your brilliance.
Why? Oh I understand why they'd want to run the Israelis out or even dead, and they would if they could, but they can't. As to were I stand on this issue, the Israelis have every bit as much claim to the land as the Palestinians and they have the power to keep it....that pretty much settles it in my eyes. Also, the Palestinians don't do themselves any favor by resorting to terrorist tactics and hiding weapons among hospitals and schools hoping for collateral damage if anyone takes those weapons out so they can film it for propaganda reasons.
Did I say it wasn't? Do you think for a second that the Palestinians wouldn't kill every Israeli if they had the power to?
Do you live in America? I would be afraid to have my family live anywhere near you. These are some very sadistic and genocidal thoughts and views you have. You are willing to kill over a million innocent people as a punishment for something you believe they did wrong? Pretty Hitleresque views there. I have the urge to report you to the authorities; am afraid you might go shoot innocent Muslims at your neighborhood mosque or something more drastic. I actually wouldn't want you near any Rockets games either, you might hurt Dwight for his #FreePalestine post.
I think he's like a twenty year old kid, he doesn't know much about much from what I gather. Too many stupid video games or something. Still frightening though.
Your straw man conversation is amusing, but it's not going to get you very far. If you'd like to talk about what I actually said, that's fine, but don't put words in my mouth. The question was "So you're saying it's ok to kill over 1 million innocent people, including children, if there is a reason that is legitimate enough?" I bolded the part that was important here. Honestly anyone who wouldn't be willing to do that, assuming there was a legitimate enough reason to do so, is fairly weak minded and they shouldn't be in charge of anything. Now, as to what would constitute a "legitimate enough" reason to have to do that? Completely different subject. As to the subject at hand, the people aren't "innocent" and I wasn't suggesting killing them, just forcing them to leave to be someone else's problem. IMO that's totally justified given their actions.
Again..nice! Not only did you fail to debunk the Palestinian legitimate reasoning (the reasoning you established), but you actually confirmed it...an equal right to the land!
The question was about killing, and you said yes to that. And for the subject at hand, when would it be legitimate enough to kill an infant? You're essentially saying there IS a reason where it would be ok to kill 1 million children? Please tell me what that situation would be?
I'm pretty sure you failed to understand what I was saying all along.....I never suggested that they didn't have reasoning, merely that they didn't have the power. I understand why they want to overrun Israel and I understand why they'd want Israelis dead, unfortunately that doesn't excuse their terrorist methods like hiding weapons among children and in hospitals in the hopes that there will be collateral damage. I don't have loyalty to either side. If you switched the sides, I'd still think the same.
I highlighted the part that is really important here and shows what an evil spawn you are. According to your logic, you should support suicide bombings of Israeli civilians because of the terror that the democratically elected members of Israel are inflicting on the people of Gaza.
Would you kill 1 million infant children to save 100 million? Would you kill 100 million infant children to save 5 billion? There's always scenarios where it would be acceptable and even when it would be the morally correct thing to do (according to some codes of morality). Would the Palestinians kill around 8 million Israelis to get what they consider their land back? Absolutely. Would the Israelis kill the 3 million or so Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza to protect their people? So far the answer has been no.
