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[NYPost] Rockets could make push for Carmelo (UPDATE: Blog post)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ItsMyFault, Mar 13, 2014.

  1. Mirri3000

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    Right. Expirings work the year 'before' the free agent leaves, not after. The Sign and Trade to a team with cap space is moot. However, it's the Knicks, they have all the money in the BBall world, and it's J Dolan, so it's a small chance. Also, Phil is rebuilding and he knows it.

    I still feel like it's a situation where we have to trade Asik, and dump Lin for whatever it costs us.
     
  2. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Phil says Carmelo talked to him about taking a pay cut to help the club. Hopes that he &quot;is true to his word.&quot;</p>&mdash; Frank Isola (@FisolaNYDN) <a href="https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN/statuses/458990869878947841">April 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Phil said he hopes Carmelo Anthony &quot;stays true to his word&quot; and be willing to take less to give Knicks more flexibility.</p>&mdash; Al Iannazzone (@Al_Iannazzone) <a href="https://twitter.com/Al_Iannazzone/statuses/458990832868409344">April 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>One thing about Carmelo taking a pay cut, he can also do that with Chicago, Miami and Houston. Plus, he'd be joining a contender.</p>&mdash; Frank Isola (@FisolaNYDN) <a href="https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN/statuses/458991860841971713">April 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>So if Melo re-signs: Phil said, &quot;man are we fortunate.&quot; if he doesn't: &quot;man are we fortunate... and we're moving forward.&quot;</p>&mdash; Al Iannazzone (@Al_Iannazzone) <a href="https://twitter.com/Al_Iannazzone/statuses/458993310653509632">April 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Jackson said Jeanie Buss suggested last week he coach the team because it's less risk. He said he's just not healthy enough.</p>&mdash; Marc Berman (@NYPost_Berman) <a href="https://twitter.com/NYPost_Berman/statuses/458993380153098240">April 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  3. Voice of Aus

    Voice of Aus Contributing Member

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    melo please read Larry Coons CBA FAQ.

    taking 2-5million left wont help the knicks get anyone
     
  4. Mirri3000

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    Except for the fact that I never said the trade was going to NY..... I said attaching Jones to Lin, that means another team... Asik will easily be taken. So, you failed your assumption somehow.... Also, you said it was a bad trade and Morey wouldn't do it...... Another fail.
     
  5. Nook

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    If the Rockets add Anthony, it will almost certainly be a S&T. The Rockets will need to move Asik and Lin, and the Knicks would love to get assets back while adding two players that will be off the books in 2015 when the Knicks will have cap space.

    I agree that Lin has limited appeal, but Asik certainly has value to a team like NY. He is a very good player, and the Knicks could spin him off on another team at the deadline for a #1 pick.

    I would expect a deal centered around Asik, Lin, TJones, Motiejunas and a #1 for Carmello Anthony and another player like Iman Shumpert.

    The Knicks can spin Jones for a #1 and Asik for a #1 if they choose, and you add the #1 from Houston and the Knicks have a huge incentive for a S&T.

    The Rockets add the star they want in Anthony, and Shumpert can play the guard minutes off the bench. The Rockets would have a good start to addressing their bench issues.
     
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  6. Nook

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    That isn't a bad deal for the Knicks at all.
     
  7. LabMouse

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    I thought you talked another trade, not the NY trade since you said Lin has no value. In the NY trade, Asik, Lin, and Jones for Carmelo would be like a steal, it would not be happened, although I hope there is one.

     
  8. larsv8

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    Melo could play for free and they would have no cap room. LOL

    Come to the Rockets, get a ton of money and be on an elite team.
     
  9. LabMouse

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    Then, we should do it without a question, the team would be much better after this trade.

     
  10. Nook

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    Agreed.

    The REAL question is does Anthony want to go to Houston more than any other team. If the Answer is yes, then the Knicks are better suited taking on Asik and Lin and getting assets than letting the Rockets spin off Asik and Lin to a third team.

    Realistically, the Knicks have no real cap space until 2015, which is when Lin and Asik expire. Terrance Jones has value as a building block or as a trade option. Asik will have value at the trade deadline. If the Rockets throw in a #1, you are looking at the Knicks possibly getting 3 #1's and cap space heading into 2015, that is a huge asset to the Knicks.

    On a side note, the start to the Phil Jackson era has just been bizarre. Jackson wants Anthony to take less money, when it really doesn't change their cap situation. He wants to bring in a dullard like Steve Kerr and there is talk of improving the team through free agency when it is literally impossible under the rules.
     
  11. ThisVoice

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    lol why would Dolan want Lin back to NY again? they burnt he bridge already
     
  12. Deckard

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    If Melo is willing to accpet less money, it would help the team getting him, and it would help the Knicks get a decent haul in a sign and trade, in my opinion. Like to the Rockets. Sounds very "Moreyesque."
     
  13. sjackson0

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    drumroll....Losing him for NOTHING. No franchise wants to lose their stars for nothing. Melo has one more year at 23,500,000 and can opt out. Dolan has a choice...Let me Melo walk and get nothing. Or take back expiring contracts that would be the same amount or less as if he stayed, PLUS get back young talent and draft picks. It's real a no brainer. When you lose a superstar, you try to get flexibility back (i'm sure you know this...no trying to insult you) You almost always lose when you have to trade a superstar, because you never get equal value...you just try to set gather assets...valuable assets.
     
  14. Fullcourt

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    NY might not want to set a precedent for future free agents that want to manipulate the Knicks to send them to wherever they want. Same reason the Lakers didn't even entertain the idea of a S&T with Dwight last year.
     
  15. sjackson0

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    It's the way it is.....it's not a precedent. He has the right to opt out and go where he wants to go. The Knicks HAVE a choice....they can let him walk for nothing or benefit the best way they can with a trade that helps the rebuild, because we you lose a superstar....you are rebuilding. The Rocket have a lot of young talent with small contracts and ALL of their draft picks....plus the expiring contracts too. If you think Parsons averaging 17ppg now with Harden and Howard, imagine what he can do with 6-10 more shots. He will never get that here with Harden or Howard.
     
  16. torocan

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    The assumption is that the call is Phil Jackson's and Dolan has nothing to do with the decision.

    Also, consider the other option is letting him go to Chicago in a S&T, an eastern conference team that they would have to play 4x per year or let Melo walk for nothing to a team like the Lakers and leaving the Knicks with no cap space until 2015, no 2014 draft pick, and a mess of a roster.

    It's all going to come down to where Melo wants to go. If Melo wants out, it makes more sense for the Knicks to send him to Houston than Chicago. More so when you factor in the actual assets available to trade.
     
  17. LabMouse

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    Then, the real question related to your post is that does Anthony want to win a ring or not. If he really wants to win, then Houston is a better place than Chicago and NY. NY can not give him a ring, that is almost sure. Chicago has more questions than answers although it is better than NY.


     
  18. Hakeemtheking

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    I don't care what Anthony says in the media. If Jackson wants Anthony to take a pay cut on a team that is rebuilding and going no where fast, you better believe Anthony will bolt out of there faster than a NY minute.

    Welcome to Houston, Carmen Anthony!
     
  19. Nook

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    The Lakers didn't want to take any money back in a Howard trade, that is a big reason they didn't entertain a S&T... also Howard didn't come right out and say "I aint coming back".
     
  20. Hakeemtheking

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    edit. Damn it, I hate these stupid auto correct. It is not as if Carmelo was some damn foreign name.
     

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