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Official Fire McHale Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by FTW Rockets FTW, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. bongman

    bongman Member

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    So what you are saying is everything you said about Mchale has nothing to do with his CURRENT accomplishments but rather the color of his skin (green) ?
     
  2. pacmania

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    Like I said, the team achieved this record despite Mchale holding them back.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ6JZS2AoUs


    and a litany of other coaching blunders already mentioned in this thread.

    It's not about the color of his skin. Its his loyalty for the Celtics that is so disgusting such that he could cap off his stupid performance at Minnesota by trading KG to the Celtics allowing them to win a championship thereafter. This after his stupidity lost them several FIRST ROUND PICKS along with a host of other blunders that set their franchise back for a decade or so.

    And now because his beloved Celtics have connections with the rockets organization he gets to be rewarded for that despicable behavior when no other team wanted to touch him with a ten foot pole after his disgraceful performance with the timberwolves.

    He had character and competence issues with the timberwolves and it hasn't changed.
     
  3. Chris Jent MVP

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    And now you are calling Morey's character into question.

    Like I said, when you disrespect McHale, you disrespect Morey and the Rockets.

    You should just go be a Laker fan or something.
     
  4. jtr

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    You truly do not understand basketball. McHale has been about the best possible coach for the Rockets. What is not to like? The team has performed at or above expectations every season. Howard cited him as a major reason for choosing Houston. The players evidently admire and respect him.
     
  5. Yellow

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    Why was our energy so low, ask McHale and his rotations..I bet you guys $100 D-Mo will not play tonight.
     
  6. jtr

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    Because the Rockets are on the second four games in 5 nights for the second time in 11 days?
     
  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Yeah, but also McHale runs his guys into the ground because he is a moron - and keeps his bench tight even in back to back situations.

    McHale is a clueless coach, the sooner he is run, the better.

    DD
     
  8. rocketpower2

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    The lack of set plays on offense really hurts us. P&R and ISO ball isn't going to cut it come May.
     
  9. pacmania

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    I have the highest respect for Morey and his analytics unfortunately there were no numbers to justify the Mchale hiring. And numbers don't lie. Mchale had a questionable resume' when they hired him.

    I will say this again:

    Which team would've hired Royce White after his disastrous , unproductive and turbulent stay with the Houston Rockets? The 76ers. Why? Because Sam Hinkie is a former Houston Rockets assistant General Manager.

    Which team would've hired Kevin Mchale after his disastrous, unproductive and turbulent stay with the Minnesota Timberwolves? The Rockets. Why? Because Daryl Morey is a former Boston Celtics Assistant General Manager. And Danny Ainge owed Mchale Bigtime after they won the championship riding on the two way game of Kevin Garnett.

    It is not disrespect to Morey to point out this one blunder which is totally correctible and this certainly does not equal disrespect for the rockets organization. It is simply a constructive criticism based on the facts readily observable from mchale's resume' with the timberwolves.

    On the other hand, every fan wants their team to be the best. We can't afford to carry a coaching handicap when the competition is very fierce. Even though we will have a winning record on the sheer talent of our lineup alone.
     
  10. jtr

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    Morey and the Rockets paid his salary and gave PHI a marginal overseas prospect to take the Royce migraine off their hands. What GM would not make that trade?

    Again I repeat you have no knowledge or understanding of the NBA. The most important thing for the Rockets is to have a coach who will implement Morey's philosophy. And garner the respect and admiration of the players. Morey gets to appoint most of the assistant coaches, so why not?

    Morey is the sharpest tool in the shed. The sooner you get that through your thick head the quicker you will not be the lone proponent of a preposterous idea. Do yourself a favor dude.

    You do realize that the head coaches most important contribution is to have his players admire and respect him don't you? McHale has what - five or more assistant coaches? All but one hired by Morey. Give it a break dude. You have no idea what you are talking about. But I guess that stupid is what stupid says.
     
  11. wizkid83

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    Numbers don't lie, but analytics requires the abilities to actually look into and understand the numbers.

    McHale's impact as a coach over replacement is pretty good.

    In the 2004-2005 seasons, without him, T-Wolves won 49% of their games. With him they won 61% of their games.

    In 2008-2009 Season, they won 32% of their games w/ him vs. 21% w/out.

    Numbers point out that McHale is an above average coach when hiring him.
     
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    It really is amazing, the things people will convince themselves is true to try and justify their positions.
     
  13. wizkid83

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    Especially when they are either ignoring or unable to understand the numbers they champion.
     
  14. jtr

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    They do not champion numbers, they champion opinions that run contrary to the facts. It really should be hilarious, but I find it just irritating.
     
  15. dantian

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    McHale cannot coach. Read and React is not working against semi good defense such as OKC applied today. Look at OKC, every ballhandler uses simple and effective screens teammates set for them to get a lot of open space, including Durant. When you look at Rockets. No screens. It's up to the ball handler to find out a way to create a chance. Even when some screens are set, there is no cohesion on follow up moves. We repeatedly see Lin under basket with nowhere to pass. Part of it was due to him not taking the chance to pass out early, but part of it is no game planning and more importantly TEACHING for how teammates should move etc.
    This team is winning purely on talent and 2nd-round in PO is the best outcome for the reason. Things won't change unless they get a real coach that can teach this young talent how to play together, or Morey get a LBJ type of player.
     
  16. jtr

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    Lots of opinions, no understanding. So sad.
     
  17. b2bizchina

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    U r right,McHale is an above average coach, but Houston needs a champion coach. Do u think he is this one?
     
  18. strifed169

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    This team is basically a chicken with its head cut off, no real direction on offense, no system to fall back on when their random iso's or post ups don't work, absolutely horrible defensive fundamentals, and boy when they lose, the weaknesses they have are so obvious when playing against a team with good coaching.
     
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  19. jtr

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    Possibly. Probably? Maybe. But any Rockets coach needs to follow Morey's directives to the letter. And so McHale, with the respect and admiration he has from NBA players, is possibly the best possible candidate.
     
  20. Voice of Aus

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    What you call 'random isos' , actually have some advantages such as it allows you to control the clock exactly how you need to manage it.
    This is a completely underrated outcome of harden ISO or whoever decides to ISO the ball.
     

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