As you know, NBA.com is publishing a bunch of "player tracking" stats this year, using SportVU data. One of the things it provides is player touches. http://stats.nba.com/playerTrackingTouches.html?pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=100 So it gives the following: touches per game (Tch/G) - the number of times a player touches and possesses the ball front court touches per game (FTch/G) - the number of time sa player touches and possesses the ball on their team's offensive half of the court time of possession - the total amount of time a player possesses the ball per game in minutes close touches - touches that originate within 12 feet of the basket where the player is not designated as having a post touch elbow touches - touches that originate within the 5 foot radius nearing the edge of the lane and free throw line, inside the 3-point line PTS per half court touch (P/HTch) - amoount of points a player scores per half cour touch I added a few more columns derived from the above: %PossTime - percentage of the time a player is on the court that he has possession of the ball Time per Touch (Time/Tch) - total time a player has possession of the ball per touch, in seconds Half court touch per 48 min (HTch/48min) - total number of half court touches per 48 minutes Here are some results for the Rockets through 2 games: Code: [SIZE="1"][B]Player GP MPG Tch/G FTch/G P/HTch %PossTime Time/Tch HTch/48min[/B] Patrick Beverley 1 10.4 24 21 0.24 12.5% 3.3 96.9 Jeremy Lin 2 30.4 61.5 55 0.27 11.8% 3.5 86.8 Aaron Brooks 2 17.3 35.5 31 0.21 15.6% 4.6 86.0 James Harden 2 38.1 65.5 59 0.47 11.5% 4.0 74.3 Chandler Parsons 2 37.5 48.5 40 0.24 3.7% 1.7 51.2 Francisco Garcia 2 27.8 31 26 0.52 3.2% 1.7 44.9 Omri Casspi 2 21 30 17.5 0.46 2.9% 1.2 40.0 Terrence Jones 1 4 10 3 1 2.5% 0.6 36.0 Dwight Howard 2 33.3 68 24 0.63 5.1% 1.5 34.6 Ronnie Brewer 1 7.6 9 5 0 2.6% 1.3 31.6 Omer Asik 2 20.7 33 10.5 0.48 2.9% 1.1 24.3 Donatas Motiejunas 1 4 3 2 0.5 2.5% 2.0 24.0 Greg Smith 1 4 5 1 0 0.0% 0.0 12.0[/SIZE] Harden, by the way, has the longest time per touch (4.0s) of any non-PG player in the league who's played at least 2 games and 20 mpg. The non-PG with the second longest time per touch is Tyreke Evans (3.7s). Here's the top 50 in time per touch for players who've played at least 2 game and 20 mpg: Code: [SIZE="1"][B] Player Team GP MPG %PossTime Time/Tch HTch/48min[/B] 1 Nate Wolters MIL 2 29.7 20.2% 5.4 91.3 2 Will Bynum DET 2 35.6 16.9% 5.4 76.2 3 Jrue Holiday NOP 2 35.4 18.6% 5.2 86.1 4 Stephen Curry GSW 2 31.5 17.5% 5.0 91.4 5 Victor Oladipo ORL 3 29.4 15.0% 5.0 71.8 6 Damian Lillard POR 2 37.5 18.4% 4.9 94.7 7 Jose Calderon DAL 2 30.1 21.9% 4.8 107.6 8 Eric Bledsoe PHX 2 33.6 14.3% 4.8 75.7 9 Jarrett Jack CLE 2 25.2 19.8% 4.7 106.7 10 Jordan Farmar LAL 3 23.2 17.7% 4.6 86.3 11 Tony Parker SAS 2 33.9 18.6% 4.6 96.3 12 Greivis Vasquez SAC 2 28.6 18.2% 4.6 94.8 13 Kyrie Irving CLE 2 31 17.7% 4.6 94.5 14 Goran Dragic PHX 2 33.2 16.6% 4.6 92.5 15 Mike Conley MEM 2 31.6 20.3% 4.5 110.9 16 Steve Nash LAL 2 22.2 17.1% 4.4 97.3 17 Jameer Nelson ORL 3 31.6 17.4% 4.4 90.1 18 Isaiah Thomas SAC 2 30.6 16.7% 4.4 95.7 19 Deron Williams BKN 2 24.4 19.7% 4.4 113.1 20 Derrick Rose CHI 2 32.9 20.1% 4.4 116.0 21 George Hill IND 2 32.7 17.1% 4.3 100.6 22 John Wall WAS 2 36.7 16.9% 4.3 100.1 23 Chris Paul LAC 3 36.8 20.9% 4.2 122.6 24 Chauncey Billups DET 2 31.2 12.8% 4.2 72.3 25 Steve Blake LAL 3 28.9 12.5% 4.2 75.9 26 Kyle Lowry TOR 2 34.3 16.6% 4.2 95.9 27 Reggie Jackson OKC 2 28.2 17.7% 4.2 98.7 28 Raymond Felton NYK 2 34.5 15.1% 4.1 84.2 29 Mo Williams POR 2 24 16.3% 4.1 92.0 30 Ty Lawson DEN 2 36 14.2% 4.1 84.7 31 Ricky Rubio MIN 2 33.2 17.2% 4.0 101.9 32 James Harden HOU 2 38.1 11.5% 4.0 74.3 33 Avery Bradley BOS 2 32.1 15.0% 4.0 86.0 34 John Lucas III UTA 2 32.3 14.6% 4.0 95.1 35 Norris Cole MIA 3 21.9 15.1% 4.0 87.0 36 Kemba Walker CHA 2 36 18.3% 3.9 118.0 37 Kirk Hinrich CHI 2 21.6 14.8% 3.9 96.7 38 Nate Robinson DEN 2 23.6 11.4% 3.8 73.2 39 Tyreke Evans NOP 2 20.3 10.3% 3.7 68.6 40 Gary Neal MIL 2 28.8 11.8% 3.7 78.3 41 Jeremy Lin HOU 2 30.4 11.8% 3.5 86.8 42 Jeff Teague ATL 2 35.4 13.8% 3.4 102.4 43 Michael Carter-Wi PHI 2 34.3 14.0% 3.4 91.7 44 LeBron James MIA 3 39.1 11.5% 3.3 81.0 45 DeMar DeRozan TOR 2 38.7 7.8% 3.3 58.9 46 Monta Ellis DAL 2 35.6 11.8% 3.2 88.3 47 Mario Chalmers MIA 3 29.9 12.7% 3.2 89.4 48 Lance Stephenson IND 2 38.7 7.8% 3.2 59.5 49 Dion Waiters CLE 2 21.9 5.9% 3.1 40.5 50 Andre Iguodala GSW 2 35.7 7.6% 3.1 52.4[/SIZE]
Thanks for posting Durvasa. The numbers confirm one thing I noticed last night - Aaron Brooks seems to be holding the ball for longer than other players when he has it. Pts per offensive touch 0.21 Percentage of time when on court that he has the ball 15.6% Average number of seconds he holds the ball per touch 4.6 The last two numbers are higher than anyone else on the team. James Harden has the second highest "Average number of seconds he holds the ball per touch", and his average is only 4.0 seconds.
I wish someone could track success per possession. That's a big KPI for us when going TT. It's a stat that both Rudy and JVG tracked. It is a TS% that uses an entire possession as measure. And it treats turnovers as failed possessions I used to count this myself during games. Boxscores can only approximate it
82games uses points per possession for their offensive and defensive ratings. Unfortunately they don't update that often.
That's really role dependent. Both Dwight and Omer have a high rate because we don't run the offense through them. A lot of the time when they get the ball, they're in position to take a shot.
Absolutely fabulous thread durvasa! I had been considering doing a SportVU post myself. I would like to say that the data currently available is miniscule, but it should correct itself as the season wears on. Have you found a comparable stat page to the following synergy data: My analysis has been heavily dependent on like information over the last few months.
The defensive impact stats provided so far at NBA.com is really only defense at the rim. That's kind of disappointing, since SportVU should be able to track shot contests away from the rim as well, but for whatever reason they didn't make that available.
I wonder if it is in their plans to incorporate synergy data this season? You cannot sign up for the service currently.
Maybe I'm missing something but I'm a little confused as to why Dwight's Tch/G is 68 but his FTch/G is only 24.
I was also confused about that initially, but I think his defensive rebounds are counted as a "touch". So he actually has touched the ball more frequently in the back-court, where he'll generally pass it to a guard, then he has in the front court or in a half-court setting. Still, 44 additional touches in the back-court per game seems like a heck of a lot. Maybe they're also counting in-bounding the ball as a touch? That could explain it.
Back court touches aren't very meaningful. When we talk about touches, we usually mean offensive touches. Also, the P/HTch is the player's points, right? Do they have team points per HTch? That would balance out the roles of facilitators and finishers.
Told you DMo is our 3rd best scorer and he should have played yesterday in the first half. 5 stars, durvasa
Hmm AB was holding the ball even longer than Harden. I guess he played the pg the way a pg used to play in this team several years ago.