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The truth(s?) about Jeremy Lin

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by valorita, Mar 10, 2013.

  1. munco

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    I actually don't mind Lin turning it over. As someone above showed, when he turns it over we often win. While on the surface it sounds ridiculous, when he's turning it over he's generally far more aggressive. Even if he's turning it over but stays aggressive it keeps defenses on their heels. When Lin is not aggressive he's passive and basically relegated to standing in a corner.
     
  2. SuperStar

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    Against bad teams this may be true but against good teams it probably helps balloon the lead to 30 a lot quicker.
     
  3. MourningWood

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    He's arguably the worst starting PG in the NBA. His jumper's hideous, he has no left hand, and he's a train wreck mentally. He's a great ambassador for the sport and his passion for the game is undeniable, but he's not a championship-caliber PG, and never will be.
     
  4. Penetrate&Creat

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    I wouldn't go as far as to say NEVER will be. He's still young as hell man, he's still got plenty to learn and lots of time to improve.
     
  5. obiwan15

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    No, only delusional LOFs think he will improve:rolleyes:
     
  6. timyeung

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    Yes, hater you are absolutely right.
    Every NBA player except for Lin can improve their game.
     
  7. Second_Cousin

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    Let me ask you something, how do you go from describing him as "worst starting PG" at the start of the paragraph to "he's not a championship-caliber PG" at the end? That's pretty big range don't you think?

    Worst starting PG? Really? Let me guess you didn't watch any of the games this season right? I could see how watching Game 1 vs. OKC as the only game you watched this year would give you that impression.
     
  8. rayfantastic

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    haters gonna hate
     
  9. J Sizzle

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    Yeah. He's definitely not the worst. Not sure why that dude said that unless he's trolling.

    Realistically, Lin falls somewhere in the 15-20 range of starting PG's. Not even hating, that's just the reality of the situation right now.
     
  10. apcgamb24

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    I'm a Lin fan and completely agree. This is like the golden age of PGs. The position is just so deep. I agree right now he would fall into that 15-20 range. Thank you for being objective
     
  11. zawa

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    Jeremy Lin is currently an average starting point guard, he does however have potential to be great as this was only his first season as a starter.

    Last year in New York compared to this year in Houston are two completely different situations and roles, where Lin had to learn how to play off the ball etc. He will learn more as the playoffs continues and the years go on, it's not like he has bad work ethics, he will improve.

    I don't understand why people on this forum can't understand the fact that he is currently just average, not one of the worst PGs in the league, and not an elite point guard either, people just seem to always feel the need to polarize his skills, which are currently just in the middle of both.
     
  12. RocketFever

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    http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/playerstats/13/2/eff/13-3

    The 15-20 range matches up well with his efficiency stats...his EFF/48min against .500%+ teams was 22nd overall, and 16th among starting PGs. His post all-star eff/48 puts him at around 24th. His defense is definitely top 1/3 for a starting PG. His IPV for a starting PG was around 20th, but his total IPV was around 18th for all PGs... http://talkingpracticeblog.com/ ...His total IPV for all players was 70th overall, which had a lot to do with him playing all 82 games, but that's pretty impressive in itself.
     
  13. hocash

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    Stopped reading when he put Nash in front of Lin. No credibility.
     
  14. sportsbook

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    The truth to Jlin is he is a tool of Les to keep his Chinese business investments alive. Simple as that.
     
  15. J Sizzle

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    How so? Steve Nash has virtually the same numbers on better FG%, with a better PER. Not to mention he's dealt with injuries this season.

    Not even saying I agree than Nash is better, but you acting like it's some travesty that he put him ahead of Lin is foolish. It's certainly a valid claim.
     
  16. Penetrate&Creat

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    Keep on trollin' bro:rolleyes:
     
  17. vicykandy

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    Lin turning over means he might found a spot to attack but his teammates had not seen it, it can due to poor chemistry, or just his teammates did not notice. But turning over is dangerous cuz it allows the other team to fast break. That'll widen the gap very quick. His TOs has been cut down alot since coming to Houston. I do agree when you TO more you are more aggressive, cuz even Nash has high TOs while high assists.
     
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    1. How good of a player is current Lin and what is his ceiling?
    I think he's actually a better player than he was from Linsanity. We don't see this as much because he's not the main focal point of the offense. He's still not consistent yet, but he's much more consistent than he used to be. Linsanity was a wild player, who threw up wild shots and played well when he was on fire. The current Jeremy Lin plays with level-headedness. He has not reached his ceiling yet. I don't think he'll ever be the big-time scorer that many people hoped he'd be, but I can see him improving on assists and defense. Also, if he continues doing that teardropper and develope a 3-point shot like he did in the last month of the season, he will be a better player.

    2. Can he reach that ceiling and how does that fit with the future of Rockets?
    We'll see what Jeremy Lin is next season. I think he'll average somewhere around 17 ppg. and 8 dimes. He takes enough shots to get that. They just got to go in.

    3. What is his worth to the organization and is he a coveted asset around the league?
    Obviously, he'll do well in an Asian market like Toronto or L.A. They might get slightly bigger trade value from teams of those cities. Race aside, he's sharply overpaid for the stats he's bringing. You can get a Raymond Felton-type player for a third of the price, so basketball-wise, his trade value is low.
     
  19. vicykandy

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    So you are rooting for the worst team in NBA? HAHAHHAA
     
  20. hocash

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    They play this thing called DEFENSE in the NBA. It actually matters. And he's injured cause he's old...not cause he's young but unlucky.

    Nash is awful right now. Great player in his prime though he stole one MVP from Jason Kidd. Right now...he's terrible. Can't guard anyone and not good enough on offense to compensate. Lower 1/4 starting PG.

    On no planet is he better than JLin right now. Lin would be killing it on the Lakers now.
     

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