U.S. ambassador, 3 American diplomats killed by protesters in Libya

What is somewhat discouraging about this? Don't like the handwriting?

 

I haven't read this thread, because I imagine it's a bunch of political stupidity, but I thought this was worth posting:

http://imgur.com/a/tlCyI

 

OK? I listed (without detail or accusation) at least four reasons various factions might have had to coordinate Egypt and Lybia on 9/11. I don't underestimate how much people hate The President, The CIA, The US in general. You can flesh out a spy book with any bad guy, Russians to distract us from Syria, Chinese that want to bog us down away from the Pacific, people that want to use the US to take over, people that don't want the US involved in taking over, Iran always Iran, neocons that want to post how Obama is a p***y, arms dealers investing to keep business good, or a crowd of freedom fighters tilting at the Death Star.

 

They say "please don't bomb us".

 

Simplistic. Is France a SOCIALIST non-democratic state because it's run by the PS these days?

Was the multi-party democracy perfect? Hell no, it was rigged and flawed.

But let's not pretend that Serbia's first experience with democracy was perfect, and that the Serbian people were nice and rosy and deserved democracy and YAY, kittens and rainbows, unlike those ARABS who can't seem to get democracy to function in a year. Sure, it might have been stretched, rigged, and gamed but Milosevic still won 46% of the popular vote.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...an_milosevic_ever_democratically_elected.html

Eventually, Milosevic was kicked out because of his bending the rules of the multi-party system and something more akin to a Western-style democracy arose.

http://www.policy.hu/pavlovic/Bibliografija/Harriman_Review.pdf

If you want to hide behind the example of Serbia after 2003-2006 (which has its' own problems anyways) and hide behind semantics as an example of an enlightened people who deserve democracy, then you probably shouldn't ignore the decade or so of s**t that preceded it, when they were already tinkering with an imperfect democracy---and looked very much like the people you are denigrating these days.

Or even the s**t that is happening now and after.

Serbia's New Constitution: Democracy Going Backwards

http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/regio...w-constitution-democracy-going-backwards.aspx

Still, things are getting better in Serbia. And eventually, things will get better in the Middle East. There is no such thing as people not deserving democratic rights because they are ill-suited for them. Just give it time; your poster child Serbia suggests that. There are no people who deserve democracy more than others.

 

It was already posted. It's stupid not to read threads and then post.

 

You are really dense.

 

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Ah ok. That seems like a very valid viewpoint. Thanks for the clarification.

 

Intern posting his research results. Still a spaz.

 

I'll continue to post as I see fit - I have no interest in reading a bunch of hateful, pissing match crap from you and others, trying to score political points over people dying.

 

Nobody cares what you have or do not have an interest in. It is bad etiquette to just go into a thread and post something that has just been posted before, just because one cannot be bothered to check if it has already been posted.

Your pictures were posted 6 posts before yours - embedded, thus easy to see, and quoted 3 posts before yours.

And spares us your holier-than-thou crap. If you haven't read the thread - shut up.

 

WTFF:

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Libya's Deputy Interior Minister Wanis al-Sharif says the consulate's security forces moved Ambassador Christopher Stevens and other personnel to a second, safer building once the attacks began. But, he continues, the security forces told the attackers which building Stevens was hiding in, effectively handing him over.

According to Sharif, the attackers coming against the US embassy were "more heavily armed than the Libyan security personnel who were assigned to protect the U.S. Consulate."

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/...y-Handed-Ambassador-Stevens-Over-to-Attackers

 

Who approved and sent a cable from the US consulate that didn't account for the First Amendment? Seems like they would learn about that at Georgetown.

Was it a hack?

( this stuff writes itself, I need to get Clooney the screenplay stat)

 

Smoke on the Water. new US Embassy defense system:

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Answer the question.

Or is your cult doing the whole insult instead of respond thing all over again?

 

Are you really that stupid?

What I said means that it is somewhat encouraging to see some people holding up peaceful signs after a mob of thousands of people stormed the embassy and murdered the ambassador - which was obviously discouraging. On the whole, I find the situation discouraging, but these photos are at least somewhat encouraging.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS NOW?

 

Uh, the cable explicitly affirmed that free speech is a universal right.

[rquoter]
We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.[/rquoter]

I can firmly reject someone's abuse of free speech in making hateful, insulting remarks, while also affirming their right to make those remarks on free speech grounds.

 

If it's free speech and protected, it is not abuse. It might be morally reprehensible according to the majority of people, but it is not abuse.

 

Timeline:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/world/cairo-libya-attacks-timeline/

 

I still don't get what is only "somewhat" encouraging about these photos? Slip of the keyboard the second time around?

Does this also have to do with why you are so irritated when someone accidently reposts these photos?