Not to mention Melo's mar1juana bust. It was his friend's mar1juana. Of course. Then the cops found a bag of weed in his car. Carmelo knew nothing about that. Of course.
I think you are basing your opinion on the old man kidd. Prime kidd was amazing. Great passer/rebounder/defender and could score. I think rondo can make it into the HOF as well but is not better than a prime kidd
NBA champion (1981) 6× NBA All-Star (1973, 1975–1976, 1980–1982) 3× All-NBA First Team (1973, 1975–1976) 2× All-NBA Second Team (1972, 1981) NBA scoring champion (1973) NBA assists leader (1973) NBA All-Star Game MVP (1981) NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team Close call, but I'd take scoring Champ to go with assist leader. He reached a higher level than Jason Kidd ever would. Both champions though.
They are a little bit similar though don't you think? Even if Rondo is not as good. Prime Kidd was a monster I remember. Eyes on the back of my head. He was amazing to watch. He could dominate a game without scoring the ball.
Could be. I have rather vague memories about his play. He did take a rather mediocre NJ Nets team to the Finals, but they were always going to get dominanted by the West (Lakers, Spurs, even the Kings) because East was so weak.
They're very different: Kidd was a fundamentally sound traditional PG. He found the most efficient pass or shot possible and was rarely if ever flashy. Rondo is flashier, with higher highs (scoring, rebounding) and lower lows (disinterested, pissing off teammates). I would pick Kidd every time assuming prime Kidd. Kidd was a near mvp caliber player in his prime--he was that good in helping his teammates produce. With Rondo, it could very well be the other way around, ie the hall of famers are guarded so tightly Rondo is free to roam and create.
Unlikely. His mechanics are horrible. His giant hands don't help either. Terrible free throw shooter as well, esp for a 1.
I do think they are similar though in the sense that they both crash the boards and play good d and are walking triple doubles. BACK TO JLIN'S UPSIDE :grin:
Kidd did some flashy passes. They were more often than not the best pass for the exact situation but there was some flashy stuff. You are right about Rondo's lows though. Not really a Rondo fan to be honest because of those lows. But as a basketball player he is talented.
Rondo is gimmicky. He carries the ball a lot (fake pass which is actually a carry). He throws the ball off people's back on the inbounds. Cute plays, but JKidd never cared about that. Exactly the right pass, always pass first, and a heck of a rebounder as well. He couldn't shoot for sh-- but it didn't even matter.
Lol. I think we have kind of discussed this enough. Very excited for the season and to get my League Pass. I saw this online cause I was reading stuff up on Lamb. During the recent Greater Hartford Pro-Am on July 31st, his coach echoed similar thoughts: "I think Lamb will grow to have a good, trusting on-court relationship with Lin. There is great potential for Jeremy (Lamb) to benefit from the court vision that Lin excels at. Since Jeremy can find his spots on the floor beautifully as evidenced in the NBA Summer League and what I saw (at the Pro-Am), a skilled player like Lin can get him the ball in shooting position and within the flow of the game."
Kidd's J though is horrible. Almost all the time, it'd be a directional miss, either too far left or too far right. Something happened in Dallas where he actually developed a 3, but he's still a 40% career FG guy.
You are right Kidd was never gimiky. But he did do some flashy stuff in his prime. But it was flashy but the right move because he had such exceptional court vision.
Lin's mechanics are bad too. Starts his take-up with the ball near his knees, elbow out, shoots it from the right side of his head. Rondo's elbow does stick out further, but at least he shoots it from the center of his forehead, not from the side of his head. I'd say their mechanics are equally bad. Off topic, but MJ had giant hands, as did T-Mac, and others who could palm the ball like a tennis ball, yet they had no problem shooting. Kawhi Leonard has ginormous mitts, yet he's one of the Spurs' best 3 pt shooters. That giant hands excuse for not being able to shoot is weak, probably started by the Shaq apologists, and it's become a tradition that's been passed down to the Rondo, Duh-wight apologists. It'd be nice if people would stop using it.
Remember guys, the Hall of Fame is the basketball Hall of Fame, it doesn't just include their NBA careers. Jason Kidd has a very impressive resume starting from high school as being voted California Player of the Year and was an All-American in High School and NCAA. He also has 5 Gold Medals playing for Team USA. Combine that with his NBA career, no doubt he deserves to be in there.
Lin is a much better shooter than Rondo, which isn't saying much. The key to Lin's effectiveness is the quickness of his release. I don't think he needs a classic stroke. He'll get better with repetition, and I won't evaluate his shot until he has a full season. Lin's release is just as quick as R. Allen, and Allen has done pretty well for himself as a shooter. The key at this point in a career is practice; do you recall any nba player changing their shot drastically? Rondo's situation is almost hopeless. A large part of his problem is psychological. He's not confident in his shot, and I doubt he works on it. His large mitts aren't the only issue, but they don't help. Jordan had huge hands, but he had the best looking j I've ever seen. I saw him play as a freshman at unc and without knowing anything about him I immediately thought he was the perfect player. Not the best player, a perfect player. Big mitts won't prevent you from shooting well, but at a certain point, you find that you start to push the ball rather than release it off your fingers. Try it yourself with a regulation bball and then with progressively smaller balls. At a certain point, your hand engulfs the ball and there's not much difference in your release whether you try to roll it off your fingers, push it off your hand, or simply just swat it away. There are all sorts of variables, such as hand width, length of fingers and the length of the hand from wrist to fingertip, so saying someone has big hands doesn't mean exactly the same thing in every case. Shaq practiced mma I wonder what his glove size was?
