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Ioannis Bourousis Should Be The New Franchise Center Of The Houston Rockets

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by A Kar, Dec 24, 2010.

  1. Angkor Wat

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    He actually has a point. They're not whistle happy over there as they are in the NBA. So they let players get away with a lot more physical contact. Now they don't have the physical stature of players in the NBA but they are allowed to get more physical on defense. One of the main reasons I like watching international ball is they let so much stuff go.
     
  2. OHMSS

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    You obviously have never in your life seen a Euroleague game.
     
  3. jopatmc

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    Just watch all the bludgeoning that goes on in the paint in the NBA from now until the middle of June and then try to convince me that the Euros are more physical. The Euros don't even have the bodies to be more physical on a nightly basis. There's no comparison.

    And no. I don't watch a lot of Euro ball anymore. Watched them for years. I catch maybe 20-25 games a season, not including their playoffs.
     
  4. OHMSS

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    The amount of physical contact in the Euroleague is far higher than in the NBA.
     
  5. LongTimeFan

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    Also by much shorter, weaker and slower players.
     
  6. OHMSS

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    Where do you get these "facts" from? The average Euroleague player is NOT smaller than the average NBA player. It is about the same for all positions, except Euroleague point guards are bigger. Overall it is about the same. The SAME height and weight as NBA players, again except Euroleague has BIGGER point guards.

    You are making up that NBA players are bigger. That is simply NOT true.
     
  7. htownrox1

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    this guy looks like david andersen on steroids.
     
  10. flamingdts

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    Thunder is going after him?

    They sure are loading up even more on that ridiculous frontcourt
     
  11. OHMSS

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    Yes, according to this:


    Ioannis Bourousis Is In The Sights Of The Oklahoma City Thunder

    The transcriptional target of the Oklahoma City Thunder is Ioannis Bourousis. The release clause in his contract stands at €1 million euros ($1.437 million US dollars) for any interested NBA team, while his contract with Olympiacos expires in 2012.

    The former forward of CSKA Moscow, the American David Vanterpool, is currently working with the Oklahoma City Thunder team. The former player was at the Euroleague Final Four in Barcelona, and in statements made to the media, he spoke flattering words about the value of Ioannis Bourousis.

    Oklahoma City has been monitoring the play of Bourousis lately, and is expected to formalize its interest in the Greek international this summer. However, the 27 year old center has a contract with Olympiacos until 2012. But there is a corresponding "buy out" agreement in his contract, which states that if he wants to sign with an NBA club during the summer, then he can leave if he covers the contract's €1 million euros ($1.437 million US dollars) buyout amount.

    Furthermore, if the Reds (Olympiacos) want to let him go just before the start of the third year of his contract, which began in 2009, then they would have to give him the buyout amount of €250,000 euros net ($359,000 US dollars net). However, as the the NBA is expected to have a lock-out next season, Bourousis is unlikely to take a chance to sign with an American team and risk having to set out an entire season with no pay. At the present time, the center is concentrating on his obligations to Olympiacos.
     
  12. jopatmc

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    After last night's games....yeah, I see what you mean!

    :rolleyes:
     
  13. RudyTBag

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    Seriously... It isn't even close.


    David Andersen can survive in one league, won't touch the court in another... :grin:
     
  14. crash5179

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    Yea, the Euroleague is far more physical than the NBA! :grin: :rolleyes: That is a funny damn quote. Ignorant as all hell, but funny!

    <iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Ed3umTuRTqo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    <iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/jaJr6_XF1Og" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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    <iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/6bM-Y4UoiAY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  15. OHMSS

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    Game 1 of the Euroleague season is as physical as the NBA playoffs are. It is quite clear that most of you are very limited in basic basketball knowledge. Even most casual basketball fans know that the NBA has much less physical contact and play than the Euroleague does.

    Oh, and David Andersen could not play center in Euroleague. He was a POWER FORWARD in Euroleague. It is only in the much less physical NBA that he can even play at center.
     
  16. HMMMHMM

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    Please stop with this nonsense.

    Posting youtube videos of flagrant fouls is just as stupid as saying Euroleague basketball is much more physical than the NBA.

    I happen to watch both leagues and while there definitely is more physical contact allowed in Europe, the players just aren't as big, strong or athletic.

    There's also a big difference between perimeter and post officiating in the NBA, whereas in Europe the difference of allowed contact is rather marginal.

    Post play in Europe may be as physical as in the NBA and if there's a difference it isn't big.
    However, with a few exceptions, the NBA bigs are much stronger and athletically gifted than the Euroleague players and with the court being bigger and the defensive 3 rule in place, the offensive players in the NBA have more space to operate which obviously makes it harder to defend.

    A guy like Valanciunas who's already getting abused in the post in Europe, will have no shot defending bigs in the NBA. He may get there, but as of right now he'd just get pushed around.
    NBA players are too strong, too quick and too athletic.
     
  17. crash5179

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    No not at all. You loose that argument.


    No, it is only clear that you have no knowledge what so ever of NBA play and you are clearly delusional. You loose that argument.

    No only a non-fan would ever think Euroball is more physical than the NBA.




    Only in the less physical Euro league could David Anderson get consistent minutes because he sure as hell can’t get them in the more physical NBA regardless of position.


    You keep making non-sense posts and your already non-existent credibility just keeps sinking lower and lower. Come back to this board when you actually have something intelligent to offer.
     
  18. infinitidoug

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    Does he flop like Vlade too? It would b cool to get two experts on the art of flopping on the Rockets haha
     
  19. infinitidoug

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    What are the Thunder going to do with Perkins if they sign this guy? Does this mean that Perkins is not in the future plans for the Thunder? Or, does this mean that Bourousis will forever remain as the back-up center?
     
  20. roslolian

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    OHMSSS is right, in general the Euroleague is far more physical than the NBA. I don't know if you noticed, but the NBA is a pansy league, the only ones who get roughed up on a semi-regular basis are the last "true" centers like DH and Yao Ming, everyone else gets touch fouls and can flop their way to the foul line. Saying Euros are shorter and weaker than NBA players doesn't really mean anything, for one thing I don't think Europeans are any shorter or weaker than Americans, and its not like they are benchpressing or measuring their height on the court. Just look at how Aaron Brooks, KM and CP3 can play in the court, the reality is if today's NBA were like the smashmouth 80's these guys would be in crutches by now.

    The fact is the Euroleague has way more lenient refs, and this allows everyone to play rougher because the refs let them get away with more. Euro Stern (or whoever the Euro commish is) isn't trying to sell a faster, more entertaining game like in the NBA and thus isn't protecting the small, lightning quick and exciting players like Nash, CP3 etc like they do in the NBA. I'm not sure about OHMSSS' statement about the NBA playoffs being like game 1 in the Euros, but the average Euro player receives more cheapshots than the average NBA player does. You just don't realize it because all the ones who go to the NBA are the sweet-shooting "soft" players, the scrappier, lunch-pail Euros stay in Euroland because they aren't talented enough to make the jump.

    Even the trash talking is on a whole different level than in the NBA:

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    Seriously how many seasons would Artest be banned for saying **** like that?
     

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