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COVID-19 (coronavirus disease)/SARS-CoV-2 virus

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  1. Nook

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    First, is heart disease contagious? Can I give it to another by sitting in a movie theatre?

    Second, concerning heart disease; the government should restrict or heavily tax certain foods based on the negative externality costs on society.
     
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    You really graduated from Rice?
     
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    It's behind a paywall so I don't know. But just to be safe, I try to steer clear.
     
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    They tried this already with their asinine car wrecks comparison.
     
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    Another excellent video from the doctor but for those that don’t have time to watch...

    • Long term immunity highly likely
    • Immunity to covid from people exposed to SARS from 2003
    • People infected with SARS in 2003 still have immunity 17 years later
    • No immunity to covid from exposure to other human coronaviruses
    • They have found groups of people who have immunity to covid that have never been exposed to covid or SARS.
    • That immunity likely comes from exposure to betacoronavirus in cows, bats, dogs, and other rodents.
    • Humans don’t get sick from that betacoronavirus but we do have an immunological response
     
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  7. Nook

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    https://www.newsweek.com/doctor-tes...-three-months-after-treating-patients-1518917

    Doctor Tests Positive for Coronavirus Twice in Three Months After Treating Patients
    BY EMILY CZACHOR ON 7/19/20 AT 12:28 PM EDT

    A doctor reportedly tested positive for the novel coronavirus twice this year, after having treated COVID-19 patients at a hospital near Tel Aviv, Israel, for the duration of the global pandemic.

    The doctor is employed at Ramat Gan's Sheba Medical Center, the largest hospital in Israel and the nation's first to confirm COVID-19 infections among patients in late February. News outlets that first reported the doctor's second positive test result did not disclose her identity, nor did Sheba Medical Center.

    In comments to Newsweek, the hospital confirmed a health care professional on staff initially tested positive for COVID-19 in April during the height of the pandemic. Subsequent tests conducted over the months that followed yielded negative results, but another conducted in July returned positive again.

    A Sheba Medical Center spokesperson said the hospital was "unaware of anyone" contracting the virus more than once. The hospital believes the doctor tested positive a second time due to "traces of the virus" still present in her system from the initial infection.

    "According to the head of our Infectious Disease Unit, this is not an uncommon occurrence with some COVID-19 patients, where remnants of the virus cause ongoing problems. This is one of the mysteries of COVID-19 that is being researched, the spokesperson told Newsweek.

    Sheba Medical Center reportedly admitted one patient who similarly tested positive for the respiratory illness a second time after previously receiving a negative result, according to the Times of Israel.

    Reports of recurring positive tests are not unique to Israel. Health professionals in several countries, including South Korea, Canada and the U.S., have identified new COVID-19 infections in previously recovered patients over the past three months. The pattern raises questions about immunity and suggests antibodies developed in response to the virus may not necessarily protect the body from future infections—or, if they do, perhaps protection only lasts for a short period of time.

    World Health Organization (WHO) officials discussed the relationship between antibodies and virus immunity during a press conference held July 13. Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, an epidemiologist who serves as the health agency's technical COVID-19 lead, said research indicates that antibodies generated in response to SARS-Cov-2 "do mount some level" of immunity. SARS-Cov-2 is the virus that causes COVID-19.

    "What we don't know is how strong that protection is and for how long that protection will last," Kerkhove continued, referencing interim findings from studies currently underway to evaluate those variables.

    "There are some initial studies out of three countries in Europe that are looking at antibody levels over time suggesting that they may wane after a couple of months," she said. "But again, that's early data and so we really need more studies to better understand this."

    Preliminary results of one recent study, which assessed the impact of SARS-Cov-2 antibodies, indicated that protection against recurring infections may not last more than a few months. Its authors noted that further research over a longer period of time is necessary to determine the full extent of immunity.
     
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    We don’t know the long term effects yet but the vast majority of these accounts are anecdotal. The virus has likely infected hundreds of millions of people and this seems to be very rare.

    Full recovery should be expected at this point.
     
  9. deb4rockets

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    Hmmm, not sure about how rare it is, or even how you presume full recovery should be expected. You might be underestimating how many actually will have long lasting or even permanent damage, whether psychological or mental. One thing is for sure, and that is the fact that 143,590 are dead.
     
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  10. bobrek

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    He has to find new avenues to deflect to. When the cases were going up he was quoting the low death numbers. Now that the number of deaths is rising, he has to switch gears.
     
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    A rattle? If I ran into Sir Simon Rattle while hiking in somewhere in the Hill Country, it would sure as hell frighten me!

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    My kids played with rattles as babies. This is the Chubby Teddy rattle, the name fitting certain aspects of this thread.

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    Then there are the rattles used by Native Americans. The coolest one of the bunch, in my opinion.

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    Did you have another rattle in mind? One of these? This rattlesnake in South Texas is telling that cat to **** off!

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    ;-)
     
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    What do you mean by psychological or mental issues? Do you mean from the virus or from the stress relating to all this?

    I get it people want to be cautious, but why are you assuming people don't fully recover? That is what has happened in the VAST majority of cases. If you are older and hospitalized with covid and pneumonia then yes you will probably have longer term issues and a tougher recovery. But yes you are 100% correct that we don't know the long term consequences and we won't for a long time.

    Also, post viral syndrome is not isolated to covid. It happens with other common viruses.
     
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    It didn’t occur to me until the last couple wks but this **** def did a number on me. I’m still dealing with a lot of the symptoms people have presented here.
     
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  14. Nook

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    I don’t think people should count on a full recovery. Every case is unique, but if we look at SARS (a CORONA virus), 40% of those infected still chronic fatigue symptoms. The exercise limits also have gone down.

    Further there have been a number of people that have had symptoms return. Further COVID attacks multiple organs so the long term effects are concerning: especially the lungs.
     
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    The Oxford Vaccine seems to be the best now , it activates your T-Cells which is Robin when the Antibodies are Batman

     
  16. deb4rockets

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    Read the article. It explains all that, which is why I included the link and talks about the issues you are questioning. It's not just older people either.
     
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    The lockdown prohibits people getting treatment? Whereas before they could go?? I’m confused
     
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  19. Commodore

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    one thing I've learned during COVID is how much concentrated power judges have

    from where does their power to issue decrees like lockdowns derive?

    might need to read up on The Texas Disaster Act
     
  20. Bandwagoner

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    it all seems so official when there is a hurricane for a few days or 2-3 weeks for Harvey. This year long situation really makes the flaws shine.
     

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