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2020 Presidential Election

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  1. leroy

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    I never said it would be successful. It will certainly go the way of Trump Vodka...or Trump Air....or Trump casinos...or Trump Steaks...or Trump U....or Trump the Game...or Trump Mortgage...or Trump Magazine....
     
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    He needs to hold a rally in Moscow
     
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    I need Trump to not just lose, but to lose in a landslide...to get embarrassed...to get swept like a 40 win 8th seed facing the 72-10 Bulls...to show his braindead supporters that America is no longer with the bullsh*t and continued destruction of the country
     
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    If you're feeling nostalgic like me, just watch.

     
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    lol and GWB zombie Ari Fleischer is a moron, surprise.

     
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  7. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    more fake news

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    Way too early, many things can and will change... but if you combine the state by state polling with the electoral map below, you can see why trump and republicans are panicking...

     
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    Former candidate for president and ted cruz's running mate...

     
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    File this under ... Profiles in Courage Incompetence

    It’s the rally that keeps on giving. In the wake of Donald Trump’s embarrassing rally in Tulsa last Saturday, dozens of Secret Service officers and agents have been ordered to self-quarantine because they may have been exposed to COVID-19.

    Two Secret Service employees were among the six advance staffers who tested positive for coronavirus hours before the rally. The day before those positive tests, they attended a planning meeting with dozens of other Secret Service staff. Following the rally, another two campaign staffers tested positive.
     
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    That's a solid statement she made besides just saying she'd vote for Biden. Lot of interesting points:

     
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    Steve Kornacki on Morning Joe made an interesting point. Biden has ceded the national stage to Trump and normally that would be a big problem but it appears to be helping both him and the Democratic chances. Trump is doing worse in the suburbs and in polling that seems to be pulling down the GOP. If another Democrat had won the nomination such as Sanders or Warren there's no way of knowing for certain that they wouldn't have followed Biden's strategy. Sanders and Warren might've continued to press against Trump and that might not have worked so well for Democrats since Trump needs an opponent to respond to.
     
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    Wow... kellyanne even contradicts her own previous comments that trump's continued use of the term "kung flu" was "racist and offensive"... and btw, the white house prevents officials from talking to reporters on record, so reporters have to same "unnamed official"...

    Kellyanne Conway Defends Trump ‘Kung Flu’ Remark and Attacks CBS’ Weijia Jiang: ‘You Lacked the Courage’ to Come Forward
    https://www.mediaite.com/news/kelly...jiang-you-lacked-the-courage-to-come-forward/
     
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    "Biden Pushes Facebook and Twitter To Remove Trump Criticisms of Mail-In Voting":

    https://jonathanturley.org/2020/06/...to-remove-trump-criticisms-of-mail-in-voting/

    Turley writes:

    We have been discussing the erosion of free speech on social media and the Internet. This includes calls from leading Democratic leaders for years to implement private censorship of political speech, a view supported by academics who have declared that “China was right” about censorship. The latest attack on free speech comes from Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden’s campaign which has asked Facebook and Twitter to remove posts by Republican President Donald Trump aimed at discrediting mail-in voting. While Trump’s statements have been widely criticized as without foundation, they constitute political speech. Biden however wants these companies to help censor such statements from his opponent and many are supporting the effort.

    Once again, we come to this dispute as a free speech matter. Ironically, the Biden campaign is citing that fact that Trump’s views have been widely discredited in calling for censorship. However, that is precisely the reason we do not need censorship. The solution to alleged bad speech is more speech, not the forced silence that the Biden campaign wants to impose through social media companies.

    Trump has been tweeting that mail-in voting raises the danger of fraud, a view shared by many in the country. It is also a view roundly rejected by many. It is one of the core issues in this presidential campaign.

    Biden however does not want those views to be read by others. Campaign manager Jen O’Malley Dillon declared “Our campaign has sent letters to Twitter and Facebook demanding that this disinformation, which seeks to undermine faith in our electoral process, gets taken down immediately.”

    To their credit, Facebook and Twitter declined.

    However, the chilling aspect to this controversy is how Biden now advocates such private censorship and wants to enlist these companies to silence his opponent — rather than engage his views in the public forum.

    Censorship and speech regulation have become a regular component to Democratic messaging and demands. There was a time when the Democratic Party was a fierce advocate for free speech values. It seems that many are falling out of love with free speech, including many who now view it as a danger.

    For years, we have discussed the unrelenting attacks on free speech in Europe with the expansion of hate speech laws and the general criminalization of speech, including international speech crimes. Some in the United States would like to follow down that dangerous path (and universities are reinforcing the view of the need to regulate speech). The implications of such anti-speech policies are evident in Germany where a survey, conducted by the Institut für Demoskopie Allensbach(and published in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung) found that only 18 percent of Germans feel free to express their views in public. It is the most vivid example of how Europeans are learning to live without free speech.

    This movement has now made it to our shores as vividly demonstrated by the presumptive Democratic nominee publicly demanding that his opponent’s views be censored. This is precisely the risk that many of us warned about. Such speech regulation creates an insatiable appetite for more and more censorship, as shown in countries like France, England, and Germany. The lack of any media push back on Biden’s demand shows how resistance to such anti-free speech views are becoming more mainstream in the United States.
    Biden's moves here deserve more attention and scrutiny.
     
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    Agreed. Biden's campaign should not have called for the removal of the Tweets/Facebook posts and I'm glad both companies refused. That's a step way too far.
     
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    @MojoMan 's favorite. TOOOOONS!



    This one's for the youtuber Trumpanzees, too sophisticated for the mere cartoon.

     
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    It annoys me when they show the 2016 election outcome compared to a summer poll because it presumes summer polling has more predictive power than it has. So, a third data point is needed -- what the summer polls in that last election were saying.

    Around mid-June 2016, Clinton vs Trump, according to RealClearPolitics:

    MI: Clinton +8
    WI: Clinton +11
    PA: Clinton +4
    FL: Clinton +2
    AZ: Clinton +1
    NC: Trump +1

    You can see the 2016 summer polling's big miss was in the Midwest and they might be headed that way again for Biden as far as we can tell. In FL, AZ, and NC, Biden's polling is clearly outpacing what Clinton was doing, so maybe that means more success in November.
     
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    it's in the bag for Biden. no need to vote
     
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