Bill Maher Hypothetical: If Trump Refuses to leave . . .What will you do?

This has been discussed time and time again. If he LOSES and refuses to vacate the premises, he will be escorted out of the building and thrown into the street. There is nothing to discuss at this point.

Contesting a states result and leaving the courts to decide is not the same thing. Make a better argument than this irrational point.

 

You have nothing to worry about. Mr Trump will be the only candidate running for the president, sleepy creepy Joe still thinks he’s running for the senate. Till dis day

 

You are basically talking about a coup and would the American people go for it.

I don't think they would, while yes a lot of people would do nothing I imagine all of the governing body that belongs to the left will not. There will be a lot of riot fuel there, a lot of anger, I imagine even some republicans might dissent.

It has never happened. FDR did serve more than two terms but did so legally (they changed the rules after him) and I honestly don't think it would happen nor do I think even Trump would be so bold as to do it.

 

The White House isn't a seat of power. what makes your president isn't the White House. It's who agencies and branches recognize as the President. If Trump refuses to leave, it should be moot so long as everyone else recognizes the elected President as the President. Trump might have loyalists he put in place though, but it's unlikely he can have loyalists everywhere. So it's possible we would have two presidents with some branches and agencies recognizing the new President, and the others recognizing Trump.

If the election is not held, than there is a process for determining the new president. Without an election, Trump can not be President on Jan 17th.

Now what is more likely is that they have the election but find a way to reduce turnout so he can win.

 

His modus operandi is to obfuscate and confuse and never admit. Even if he gets blown out, he will do everything possible to convince you otherwise.

If he stays, it will be because he gained enough traction with Republicans to give him cover. Then, we will have endless threads in the D&D with Republicans saying he won and libs are just butthurt snowflakes. Half the country will swear till their dying breath that he actually won.

It won't be so clear as him saying, "This is stupid, I'm not leaving".

 

The only way this could possibly happen is if Trump barely loses...I'm talking by maybe hundreds of total votes and a minor electoral college loss. He could then claim fraud in a GOP controlled state and hopefully get the Supreme Court to buy off on it. If that happened, I'd imagine there'd probably be a few marches, a lot of moaning and complaining as you said, and everybody goes back to what they've been doing for the last 4 years as American democracy dies more and more each day.

If the margin is bigger, he'd be arrested for trespassing by the Secret Service once Biden is inaugurated. But, Trump, if he knew he had lost and there was no way to contest it, would probably leave "peacefully." My guess is he'd try to parole a ton of people, might try to make some executive decisions that make like harder on Biden, and basically tell everyone in his staff to not help Biden at all. He'd then tweet that the election was fraudulent while walking out the door and probably try to gear up for another run in 2024...tweeting the entire time about how poor a job Biden was doing. His cult would continue to hang on every word and continue to support him and things would continue to be precarious in the U.S.

If he does that, it would be smart of Congress and Biden to pass election safeguards across the nation and also investigate Trump's many "issues." I still predict that Trump will end up having to flee the country once his presidency is over due to crimes and misdemeanors that will be uncovered once he's no longer president.

 

One thing we know, based on the Supreme Court’s incredible decision to literally put the lives of thousands of the citizens of Wisconsin in jeopardy in order to help Republicans in Wisconsin today by not postponing their primary election. If the general election in November is very, very close amid allegations of foreign interference that is proven by our intelligence agencies? Amid claims by trump and the usual sycophants who kiss his feet in Congress that any outcome that doesn’t favor trump was rigged? The Supreme Court, in a 5-4 vote, will interfere as it did in Gore vs Bush, and rule in favor of trump regardless of the evidence.

We need a clear, unassailable victory in November that prevents that scenario. Our democracy may depend on it. Literally.

 

Easy, peasy.

Trump golfs every weekend. If Trump overstays his welcome, wait until his golf weekend and change the locks.

 

Infect his care package of NDA escorts with the Rona?




Psst...hey CIA, it was a joke for me to joke about things you normally have done...Don't lock this pimp up!

 

The secret service of the new president would need to escort him out.

 

What Ottomaton and RayRay outlined I think is very much in the realm of possibility. I've also heard this brought up earlier is with Trump arguing against mail in ballots and the courts getting strict on absentee ballots that would like be the basis of Trump claims. It is very possible that come November we might be dealing with a second wave of COVID 19. If that is the case what we saw with Wisconsin we could see a repeat. across the nation. In that case even if Trump loses numerically he would then make the case that it was because of problems with mail in ballots that caused it and that many of those ballots should be rejected. Further if we are in a COVID lockdown again it's possible there will be very few poll judges and other staff. Counts could be delayed and like 2000 actual uncertainty about who won. We could have another situation where the court steps in and decides the election.

If Trump were to assert that he is the actual winner even though the numbers don't actually support that and it is pretty clear that is the case I don't think it will be taken as calmly as just grumbling and people rolling over. If there is enough loyalty among the Executive branch and among the military then we enter into civil war territory as don't I think all Americans would just sit by and accept that. We might see a splintering of the country with states refusing to accept Trump and states supporting Trump. You could see fighting within states such as people in Houston and Austin opposing the state government of Texas.

I think the USSC is a wild card here. While there is a conservative majority this is an areas where Roberts might not be willing to just go along with Trump, he's certainly conservative but he isn't Rehnquist and if there is doubt about Trump's case he might not want to be known is history as the Court that allowed Trump to stay in power.

 

^The court will play by the rules designed to empower enfranchised white voters. The Con justices (namely Roberts) will remember Bush v. Gore even if that ruling can not serve as precedent...

Republican playbook as always been to focus on voter suppression and like Wisconsin, bank on ye olde and faithful to do their duty come plague or hellfire.

I can't predict Trump (or his voters), but my fear in this situation has never been how he loses, rather how he bigly rigs the process while preemptively accusing everyone else of cheating.

It's easier to accomplish that and get away with it because once theres irrefutable proof, it'll be too late not to swear him in, less there be another constitutional crisis (repeat Bush v Gore....).

Season 5 spoilers...more like Season 1.

 

Sleepy Joe is not running for president in case you’ve missed it.

 

This is the worry I have way more than him ignoring his own defeat...

My fear is that there won't be defeat because of the effort at voting suppression we will see this year...and the SCOTUS will sign off on it.

So he won't lose because the game is rigged for him to win.

 

Basically. Why we would expect him and his crazies to behave any differently than they do now every day is beyond me.

 

Give Democrats the presidency and both houses of Congress and watch them do just that. The balls are there. trump and McConnell have royally pissed of a hell of a lot of people. While McConnell may weasel his way out of going to prison, trump won’t, in my opinion. I agree with @RayRay10 that trump would flee the country, if he can. Frankly, I think he’ll flee if he loses and won’t stick around to see just what the consequences of his acts of corruption are. It’s why I think he’ll do everything in, or not in, his power to cheat his way to a “victory.”

I suggest that those who dislike or hate trump, but constantly find opportunities to slam Biden, rethink what they are doing. They are not ”the same.” The two are not remotely the same. One, Joe Biden, believes in democracy. The other, trump, believes in nothing but himself and stealing what he can, lying the entire time, and laughing at those fool enough to support him.