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[Official] Astros Off-Season Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 31, 2019.

  1. awc713

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    Verlander
    Greinke
    McCullers
    Urquidy

    All have started World Series games. Wonder what other teams have that.
     
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    WIsh he had options left but he makes sense to be the fifth starter or long man and then take some starts from McCullers since he is innings limited.
     
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    I think Pruitt’s best case is to fill the role Peacock has filled the last few seasons, and be similarly effective.

    One other thought is that with McCullers needing his innings severely limited, a guy like Pruitt who is used to throwing 3-4 innings in relief, holds a lot of value to Houston.
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Washington has five guys in their rotation that have started a world series game
     
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    Miley’s innings replaced by McCullers and Pruitt, likely an upgrade.

    Cole’s innings replaced by Greinke for a full season and Urquidy, likely a downgrade.

    McHugh, Rondon, and Harris replaced by Biagini, Abreu, Smith (full season), and rookies; likely a downgrade but there is upside there.

    Taken as a whole, the pitching staff should be about as good as it was last season, and that’s without factoring in deadline acquisitions. Fwiw, Astros pitchers posted 23.7 fWAR last season and are currently projected for 20.6 this season.
     
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    I think Peacock is better than a lot of people give him credit for. If Pruitt can be another Peacock for us, that's a pretty big addition
     
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    I think when people say he can be Peacock, they mean he can pretty much be Peacock outside of his 2017 season. A solid swingman who you don't really want in your rotation or pitching in high leverage relief, but putting him in those situations isn't exactly waiving the white flag. I don't think anyone is expecting a 3+ win season out of him.
     
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    This. Outside of 2017, Peacock has been worth 1.7 fWAR over 430 innings across 7 seasons. A solid, but unspectacular versatile major league pitcher.
     
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    Comparing Astros opening day rotations, 2017/2019/2020 (ranking):

    Keuchel/Verlander/Verlander (2019/2020, 2017)
    Morton/Cole/Greinke (2019, 2020, 2017)
    McCullers/Miley/McCullers (2017/2020, 2019)
    Fiers/McHugh/Urquidy (2020, 2019, 2017)
    Peacock/Peacock/Peacock (push)
     
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    In the “reading too much into this” category, Houston may have settled with Correa above his expected price because they don’t want his salary to be an unknown as they discuss trade scenarios over the next 2 weeks.
     
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    the ole’ Clutch Fans credo
     
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    Settled: Osuna $10M, Peacock $3.9M, Correa $8M, Devenski $2M

    Submitted: Diaz $2.6M/$2.0M, Springer $22.5M/$17.5M
     
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    You keep me down, now I expect the big $$$! No hometown discount for you! ;)
    Good thing this ain't the Rockets. "Tilman is cheap" jokes would be flying off the board! :eek:
     
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    I wonder if he would do 5/110 if we offered up a contract structure with a balloon payment in year 3 and a team option after year 3 for a 2-year extension:
    2020 (age 30): $20MM (midpoint of exchanged figures and a raise from the $12MM he made the previous two seasons)
    2021 (31): $21MM
    2022 (32): $30MM (3-year total of $71MM and AAV of $23.67MM)
    2023 (33): $20MM*
    2024 (34): $19MM (5-year total of $110MM and AAV of $22MM)
    *=2-year team option

    This gets us past the JV extension and if George is producing well in his age 32 season, he'd probably for sure get his option picked up since it is more financially palatable for the Astros. Maybe offer up a player option after year 2 knowing he'd be walking away from a guaranteed $30MM if he exercised it or an incentive where he gets his option exercised for some kind of award: MVP, Silver Slugger, etc.?!
     

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