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Jeremy Lin as a Pekin Duck

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by mig0s, Aug 27, 2019.

  1. yoeddy

    yoeddy Contributing Member

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    So Beverley got a contract that was similar to the contract Lin got 3 years earlier, and that's an indication that Beverley is better than Lin? That's some weird logic. Agree that Lin's injury history and age made him too risky to give a big contract to this year....
     
  2. tinman

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    Patrick Beverly was better than Jeremy Lin that's why Lin got demoted then traded with the Rockets
    Patrick Beverly is better than Jeremy Lin that's why he's a starter on a contender

    @Reeko

    If a stupid lin troll keeps spewing out his insecure lies about his idol

    we will continue to spit the truth

    @CometsWin

     
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  3. tinman

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    https://rockets.clutchfans.net/6001/patrick-beverley-deserves-to-start-over-jeremy-lin/

    HOUSTON ROCKETS
    The numbers are clear: Patrick Beverley deserves to start over Jeremy Lin

    While critics hammer the Rockets for benching Jeremy Lin, the numbers paint an entirely different picture: Patrick Beverley is the best fit as the starter.

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    Published on January 21, 2014
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    No longer a debate: Patrick Beverley has established himself as the clear starter in Houston

    The five most-watched videos ever on ClutchFans are as follows: Three Jeremy Lin highlights, a Jeremy Lin interview and a clip of Patrick Beverley being thrown to the floor.

    So trust me when I say I know what many fans want to hear. I know how easy it would be right now to be that pageview-pushing troll who writes that Kevin McHale has an irrational dislike of Jeremy Lin and is killing a championship team because of it.

    Unfortunately I can’t do that, because it’s just not true.

    ADVERTISING

    Jeremy Lin should not start for the Houston Rockets. That job belongs to Patrick Beverley right now, and frankly, it’s not even a close call anymore.

    When Beverley went down with a fractured hand in December, expected to be out four to six weeks, it gave Jeremy Lin the perfect opportunity to show he was the right fit in the starting lineup. After all, the criticism coming from some of Lin’s fans was that there was no way of knowing how Lin would do in the same position, if given the same starting opportunity.

    First, we have to understand what makes up the starting lineup. James Harden, Dwight Howard and Chandler Parsons are absolute locks. The Rockets are thin at power forward options, but Terrence Jones has emerged and is developing rapidly. He has been the starter for over two months and, barring trade, that’s not going to change anytime soon.

    So that’s the gig in Houston: The point guard that maximizes and complements this starting core is the one that should start.

    Take a look at how those four have done with Beverley compared to with Lin. The results so far show that the Rockets were right all along to start Patrick out of the gate this season.

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    Keep in mind, this is only the data with those players, so last night’s incredible +26 performance from Beverley — a game where it was blatantly obvious the kind of impact he has on this team — doesn’t even factor in since Terrence Jones didn’t play.

    What this shows us is that per 100 possessions, Houston’s starting core with Beverley outproduces opponents by nearly nine points more than the same four players with Jeremy Lin. In fact, the Beverley lineup has the third-highest Net Rating in the NBA among lineups that have logged 200 or more minutes, trailing only the starting lineups for the Warriors and Pacers. Not only are the Rockets better defensively with Beverley, they have outproduced the Lin-led lineup on offense as well. Why? Because the Rockets move the ball better, rebound better, shoot better and turn the ball over less.

    “Patrick gives you a point of attack defender that can get up and get into people, change them, make them go different directions and that’s really important,” said McHale. “And Patrick has got a little bit of a swagger to him. He kind of walks out there on the floor like he’s ready to go every single night, and you need that.”

    Furthermore, Jeremy Lin’s individual play off the bench behind Harden and Beverley has been much more efficient compared to when he starts at point guard alongside Harden.

    In 17 games as a starter next to Houston’s star two guard, Lin is shooting 43.5% and just 28.6% from three for 12.9 points a night in 32.9 minutes. Coming off the bench? Lin is hitting 48.9% from the field and 34.4% from three for 12.6 points per game in 27.1 minutes. That’s essentially the same point total in nearly six minutes less a night.

    “One of the challenges with our starting lineup is, with James and Dwight and others in that lineup, it’s hard for (Jeremy) to be in full attack mode and that’s when we think he’s at his best,” said Rockets GM Daryl Morey on SportsTalk 790last week.

    In other words, Beverley is the better fit as the starter. Lin is the better fit as the Sixth Man.

    Why do the critics insist the Rockets start an inferior five-man lineup? That’s a good question.

    Granted, this article won’t stop some of Lin’s fanatics from continuing to claim that the Rockets have it in for one Jeremy Lin. Just understand they’re wrong. Dead wrong. Because McHale starting Beverley over Lin isn’t bias or hate.

    It’s just math.
     
  4. Zboy

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    There is no question Pat is better than Airemy. It is not even debatable anymore. Ask anyone other than LOFs and they will laugh at you for even asking that question and insulting Pat.

    Pat is the same guy that took away Airemy's starting spot on the team after destroying him in Rocket practices. Airemy never recovered from that humiliation and eventually got kicked out of NBA lol.

    Beverley earned his contract and more importantly deserved and played up to his contract. You could put up Beverley in the trade market right now and teams including contenders would be interested.

    Pat helps teams win and is not a mental midget which is why he is sought after.

    Airemy, on the other hand, was a mental midget, a failure, and teams regretted giving him the contracts he got.

    The teams that Airemy played for found out soon that he was just not a good player which is why he was a journeyman.

    The rest of the teams figured out as well that he was simply not good enough and thus no one gave him a contract.

    Just not good enough for the NBA.
     
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    I remember that thread and how it drove the LOFs crazy. They couldn't stand their hero being demoted and were throwing a hissy fit in the forum lol.

    But it was clear as daylight that Pat was better. Pat had been destroying Airemy in practices and in games.

    I remember saying long before Pat took away Airemy's starting job, that that's exactly what would happen. Pat was mentally strong and did not back down from anyone while Airemy was completely opposite, a mental midget. It was inevitable. You just knew Pat would steal his job and Airemy would do nothing but cry about it.
     
  6. tinman

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    The lof response to Clutch’s article showed all of us Rockets fans that these trolls who joined were not for our team, our city or our community

    And this thread is proof of that the last LOF won’t stop replying to your posts or anyone’s post that factually proves Lin’s failures at his many stops in the NBA
     
  7. vlaurelio

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    the NBA turned their back...
     
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    That is weird logic, but you're the only one making the argument that you can only evaluate players based on contracts they sign. LOL.

    Most of us are watching basketball, including but not limited to playing time and league affiliation.
     
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  9. tinman

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    He’s just trolling Rockets fans and all nba fans dude
    @Clutch
     
  10. yoeddy

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    Um, no...I was responding to a post that argued that Beverley was better than Lin based on his contract.

    In terms of playing time, Lin's MPG when he was with the Rockets was 30.7mpg and Beverley's was 28.5mpg.

    And yes...Lin is out of the NBA now. He had a devastating knee injury similar to those that have ended many NBA careers. I am in no way saying that Lin right now is better than Beverley...I've always liked Beverley for what he is, a 3 and D guy who plays hard. But let's not kid anyone...he went to the Clippers fully with the intent of being the primary playmaking PG, but he was never able to really attain that role. Beverley has having his worst statistical year of his career now because the Clippers have so many other pieces that his usage rate is even lower than it was with the Rockets. Before Lin's injury, he was a much better overall PG than Beverley...better scorer, better playmaker.
     
  11. Zboy

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    Lol @ Airemy the mental midget at ever being a better than Pat the warrior

    No one wants a mental midget scrub playmaking point guard like Airemy that thinks he is better than he is. Why would any team that wants to win do that lol??

    Pat, as a nobody, pretty much humiliated Airemy in practices to the point that McHale had to play him, take away Airemy Lin's starting spot and give it to him.

    Pat was a fighter and he fought his way through to get where he is. Still playing and still contributing to good teams wins.

    Airemy was a mental midget that got humiliated by Pat and the got bumped around the league on different teams, with him trying to get a starting spot somewhere.

    In the end he couldn't even stay in the league lol.

    Lin is was not good enough for the NBA which is why he is out. When not even a single team in the NBA wants you for even the minimum, it means you are not good enough for the NBA. No one wants a selfish journeyman with drama that tries to pad their stats on losing teams.
     
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    And Bev is durable and dependable
    Not weak minded and weak
     
  13. Zboy

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    Airemy was one of the most weak minded players I have ever watched play in the NBA. For that reason alone he did not belong in the NBA.

    This is why Kobe hated him. He was SOFT.

    Could you imagine Pat getting bullied by Kobe or Pat crying in front of camera like Airemy does when he does not get his way?
     
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    Agree that Pat was (and is) a fighter. This is the first I've heard that Pat "humiliated" Lin in practices. Can you post a link? Everything that was published in Chron.com at the time had McHale saying "we have 2 starter-quality PGs" and that Lin would be able to use his strengths better with the ball in his hands with the 2nd team rather than playing off-ball next to Harden.

    And that really doesn't explain why, in the year Bev started and Lin came off the bench, Bev's usage rate was significantly lower than Lin's (14.8% vs. 20.4%). I agree that Beverley is better at standing in the corner to receive and shoot 3ptrs...as I said, great 3 and D player.
     
  15. tinman

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    Also when the LOF dissed Harden as not a team first player

    he’s been the same team for a long time

    Jeremy has been jumping teams like q-Bert

    actually he’s team Jeremy first he doesn’t care about the team he plays on
    And he’s admitted that in church constantly asking his congregation to only pray for the team he’s on

    @Reeko @Jontro
     
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  16. Zboy

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    Airemy has been jumping teams because no one really wanted to keep him after he would get exposed as a scrub.

    Eventually he ran out of even scrub teams that wanted to take chance on him as a scrub lol.

    On the other hand, Pat has been with Rockets and Clippers.

    If Rockets had an opportunity to get Pat, they would look into it. Obviously Clippers like him as well and gave him a contract. There are other teams that would love to have him as well and that includes contenders.

    OTOH, Airemy was bounding around teams and eventually no one wanted Airemy on their team even for vet minimum. Not even the scrub teams.

    If Airemy wasnt Asian, he would have been out of the league long time ago. Could you imagine another player with his poor ball handling and decision making abilities, and mental fragility, given chances the ones he had been given?

    Eventually you still have to show that you are good and you belong. Airemy couldn't which is why he is playing in the scrub league now.
     
  17. tinman

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    I'm glad you mentioned the Rockets because the troll who's the main cause of the Lin thread (actually ALL THE LIN THREADS) lasting long is
    yoeddy

    @vlaurelio @CometsWin @Zboy @Jontro @Reeko @Clutch
    Evidence of Anti Harden trolling

    Using the fluke Linsanity weeks to compare to Harden who's career is Hall of Fame

    When Lin has a bad game, LOF says well Harden has had bad games!
    @Roc Paint @ThatBoyNick @tiger0330
    Says He's Not a Rockets fan (aka a troll) on a Rockets fan site @Clutch



    He just said he's not a Rockets fan, but says "US" like he's one of us
    Deflects Jeremy Lin's series failure against Portland by BLAMING HARDEN.
    That was the series that doomed Jeremy's tenure with the Rockets.
    @Clutch

    Again attacking Harden for going to stripclubs
    @Roc Paint
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  18. Zboy

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    lol @ the pic.

    That is pathetic.

    No surprise this mental midget is not in the league anymore.
     
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    This is why he's crying:

    2010-11 Golden State Warriors NBA $473,604
    2011-12 New York Knicks NBA $762,195
    2012-13 Houston Rockets NBA $8,374,646
    2013-14 Houston Rockets NBA $8,374,646
    2014-15 Los Angeles Lakers NBA $8,374,646
    2015-16 Charlotte Hornets NBA $2,100,000
    2016-17 Brooklyn Nets NBA $11,483,254
    2017-18 Brooklyn Nets NBA $12,000,000
    2018-19 Atlanta Hawks NBA $13,071,063
    2018-19 Toronto Raptors NBA $697,000

    Career (may be incomplete) $65,711,054
     
  20. Zboy

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    lol 8 teams.

    Of course none of those wanted to sign him this off-season because they are now well aware that he is a scrub.

    But the other 22 teams did not want him either, not even for the vet minimum.

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    Told ya he was a scrub.
     

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