Why couldn't this go into the white supremacy is a hoax thread? Some folx are trying awfully hard to bury everyone's heads in the sand.
Trump is a racist, has been to court for racist policies, both before he was President and after, the man is the most racist President we have had since pre- civil war. DD
Now I get why this thread is different. Earlier I mentioned that this was another thread where we would have the exact same arguments as 4 previous threads. But now I see that this is a little different. In this thread, we have the exact same arguments as four previous threads, but this one adds a step after you ignore all of the well documented and presented examples of Trump's racism. In this one after you ignore those posts... you declare victory despite not being able to explain away a single of the multitude of racist examples presented, and for some reason fatty comes in this thread, wrongfully says that Trump wasn't ever accused of racism before running for office, is shown that statement is wrong, but then you and your two Trump buddies cheer for that and ignore that it is plainly shown to be incorrect. The differences are subtle but now I see them. Very nuanced...
1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump at first denied the remarks, but later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.” That is something you can verify if true of not.
Unless Trump is indicted on 1st degree racism charges judged by the ghost of Benjamin Franklin, Scalia and Ronald Reagan unanimously, Trump supporters won't believe you. There also better be urine, fecal and blood samples of racism or technically and under the Constitution, Trump is not racist. Did you know racism isn't even written in the Bill of Rights or Constitution even once? That alone proves Trump is not a racist.
@Roscoe Arbuckle @cml750 @dachuda86 @Astrodome A ton of people have called this statement false and have provided hard evidence. Defend yourselves.
There is also the eyewitness testimony of racists from GoyTalk and Daily Stormer that have explicitly talked about their pleasure with Trump's racism. These are self-acknowledged racists and white supremacists agreeing that Trump's actions, statements, tweets, etc. are racist.
What's funny is that liberals are closer to conservative values than what conservatives are these days.
Hey, I like you, dude. Astros talk is awesome. I do have to ask, answer if you want, if not that's ok, but what is it that makes you support this President? I am honestly curious, you can respond in a private message if you want. I'm not some sort of wacko lefty, I understand why people voted for him, I'm trying to figure out how people are still on team Trump.
Likewise man but I really don’t understand the hate for him. He is the lesser of evils in my opinion. I’ve said it before I didn’t vote for him but I will and will encourage others to do so because what the Dems have proposed will be detrimental to this country. Do you have a particular candidate in mind for 2020? In addition I wasn’t a political person until Trump got elected and to watch the hell this man has needlessly gone through since his election has made me and I’m sure many others just dig their heels in further because we see through the political bs.
Then I can tell you are new to politics. Presidents always go through this with the opposing party, you think Obama had it easy? Are you going to flip to being a democrat if Biden wins and the GOP do all they can to belittle his presidency? The political bs as you call it is political BS and if you think one side does it then you are going to go for a ride next time a Democrat is president. You should look back through Obama's two terms and look at all the crap he had to deal with from the other side and Obama continued to try and compromise and reach out with people that spit on him and disrespected his office every chance they got. If you think the way Trump is being treated is anything new then I'm not mocking you, just telling you that no, no it is isn't. It isn't the Democrats job to roll over and give Trump what he wants and when he wants it. It is their job to do what they feel represents the people that put them in the Senate or Congress. As for the press, media, twitter etc etc...He's the president, he's going to get targeted and criticized, he's not a king.
I get all that and I understand Obama caught hell but come on you have to admit that the level at which Trump has been attacked is unprecedented. I think what the left has done and continues to do just proves why Trump was elected in the first place and will get re-elected. You have to have something of substance and sensible to run on rather than free **** and Trump bad.
I will admit the level of attacks on Trump is unprecedented. But that is self-inflicted. He has done absolutely zero to grow his base from what it was. He has done nothing to try and govern for the greater community. He is only serving his base. I can point to certain policies and stances by other Republicans (and Democrats) where they made decisions that went to serving people outside of their base. Trump has done none of that. All politicians have told lies. Trump's lies are not only about things that matter, but things that don't matter to anyone but his ego. The way he has treated the office is disrespectful and invites the attacks he gets. It's like saying nobody attacked a European leader the way they attacked Napoleon. That was because he brought it on himself.
We've had presidents assasinated, impeached, et cetera, compared to that I don't know about it being unprecedented. I think Abraham Lincoln wins the 'most attacked president' award, but it really isn't relevant my point is they all get attacked. The fact is he is the President, he's going to face a great deal of scrutiny and he should and he's a big boy and he can deal with it or he can resign and let someone else handle it. All he does is whine about it. The left has done nothing but represent the people that put them in power, just like the GOP did, and Trump isn't a King, he's going to get criticized and if he has any dirt on him at all you know the other side is going to try to use that against him. That is Politics As Usual. As for the substance, the Dems have plenty of that. Warren, Biden, Harris, Sanders, whoever are all running on very specific things, read their platform, go to their sites if you really are trying to be honest about who to vote for, understand the why of their policies. For example, Free Healtcare is more than just 'free stuff' every other major country has it and our system right now makes it so people literally go broke because of medical expenses. This is unique to our country. It's not a good thing to brag about. Now it would be easy for me to dismiss Trump and go "Oh, he needs more than Immigrants bad and more money to the rich." but I think I understand his policies well enough that I would have preferred Kaisich over him, I understand his policies well enough that I'd take basically any Democrat (and almost any other Republican) over him. I didn't get there though just listening to MSNBC or TYT because I know what they think of it. I go to right wing sites too to see how they frame it. Reach outside of your bubble a bit maybe you'll be surprised to learn that Democrats are not evil and they are not trying to ruin the country.
By people, do you mean Russians? Comrade? You have a habit of demanding proof of others, rejecting the proof for a myriad of Trumpanzee reasons, and then saying stupid things without any evidence whatsoever. President Donald Trump is racist, American voters say 51 - 45 percent in a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today. https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=3636
@Astrodome thinks anyone who isn't a white nationalist is in the center and liberals are antifa. @dachuda86 thinks white nationalists are the true liberals. That's how lost they are