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Identifying Political Donors

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Aug 7, 2019.

  1. biff17

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    Troll account confirmed.
     
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  2. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

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    So you believe that politicians should be allowed to have campaign contributions from secret sources?
     
  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Im saying the person donating the money should have privacy.

    There are two sides to the transaction
     
  4. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

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    Well your vote is private. Donations shouldn't be. That's how backdoor quid pro quo bribes happen.
     
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  5. pgabriel

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    And it could be a reason a person loses a job or faces who knows what consequences
     
  6. biff17

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    Yes one side is more likely to act out violently but both sides have acted violently.

    Just because one side is more likely to do it does not mean it's ok to do this, especially a presidential candidate.

    These are still private citizens who have the right to contribute how they please.
     
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  7. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

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    Well then you don't have to donate. Again, your vote should be confidential. But if you want to contribute to a campaign financially, the public has to know where all those funds come from so the public can determine if the politician has private interests and conflicts of interest.
     
  8. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    We already have personal contribution limits for confict of interest reasons
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    They definitely have the right to contribute as they please. Doesn't mean that their donations should be confidential.

    We as citizens have our say in our vote. We shouldn't influence policy from secret donations.
     
  10. fchowd0311

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    Well not when they become a PAC.
     
  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Well im talking individuals. The whole purpose of a PAC is to support a candidate
     
  12. NewRoxFan

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    Large corporations and other money-rich groups could easily get around contribution limits by breaking up the amounts into smaller amounts. And without visibility into the donors no one would know.
     
  13. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    That's not a legit counter to individuals being subject to being outed
     
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    They are not being outed if the information is publicly available. Which it is.
     
  15. biff17

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    i never said there donations should be private.

    I don't think that a presidential candidate and member of the house should be posting a list of his constituents who donated to a particular candidate or party.

    It's a very divisive tactic furthering the us vs them mentality that I think is the central issue that negatively affect today's politics.

    It's especially dangerous considering the heightened tensions since the shooting in Texas.
     
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    The vote is secret. I'm not a great lover of the idea that free speech requires anonymous speech. But I also think it could be reasonable to set a threshold where small donors can have privacy and donors who give so much they can actually move the political conversation should be identified. It seems like right now we have the opposite policy where Civilly Engaged Citizen who gives $1,000 has their name on a ledger and Power Broker with Connections to the Russian Mafia gets to hide behind a complicated Trust.
     
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  17. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I think you need to stop worrying about Russians.

    So you dont think votes should be secret?
     
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  18. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I understand that. I don't think it should be public

    I.doubt presidential candidates know their individual donors or are influenced by them. Thats the purpose of the limit
     
  19. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Not very Christian of you at all - Christ said to turn the other cheek.

    DD
     
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