Remember this, we are trying to add two primary stars.

Philly wants Horford eh?????????????

LOLOLOL


No they don't.

 

I just checked their ROSTER. Embiid Simmons.....

They do not want Horford. That's misinformation.

 

That's foolish with Tobias and Butler leaving. They need perimeter guys first. Only way they acquire Horford is to shuffle him back out for a wing or guard.

 

If we sign and trade for Butler.... nobody for a year. Maybe full mle to brook lopez.

 

Jordan Bell for 4 million please.

 

Do not believe everything you read.

 

So after sleeping on it again last night

I feel even more strongly there is no way that we do a sign-and-trade for Butler. I think D-day for Butler is tomorrow. I think he'll have to opt in. And if he doesn't I think it's over. I think we may actually have another deal in the oven half-baked already.

Consider this:

Butler opting in at 32.7 and trading Capela and Ego out for him leaves us with

Paul $38,506,482
Harden $38,150,000
Butler $32,700,000
Tucker $ 8,349,039
Nene $ 3,825,360
Harty $ 1,416,852
Clark $ 1,416,852
Frazier $ 1,416,852
Chiozza $ 1,416,852
Ponds $ 900,000 (estimate)
Shump $16,516,181 (cap hold)
Minimum $ 900,000 (estimate)
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Total $145,514,470


This is over the hard cap. So this means we have to renounce Shump. (We can then put House Jr and Rivers cap holds in there.)

So, in a S&T scenario we are left at basically a cap of

$128 million to $129 million depending on whether or not we cut Chiozza and Frazier before they are guaranteed.
(Yes, I know this has already been discussed elsewhere.)

You then have the MLE and the BAE to spend to make any significant additions, approximately $9 million and $4 million. But realistically it's $6 million and $4 million since we're hard capped at approximately $138 million.....

And if we spend that then we are stuck. We can only trade down in salary. So you've got $10 million of trade salary to possibly move at the deadline for 2 other guys...gotta fill out the roster minimums.

That's your team...Harden, Paul, Butler, Tucker, Harty, Clark, Ponds, a $6 million player, a $4 million player, and minimums. Maybe we get DJ for one of those salaries. Maybe we can keep House Jr. But that's our team.

And then we hit the offseason...over the cap and in the tax. With basically $10 million to trade with picks for $12 million of incoming salary.

There's no future for 2 seasons. We're tapped out. This becomes the next version of us for the next 2 seasons. Only minor adjustments. And possibly 1 or 2 missing first rounders to boot (Butler deal). I say possibly. I don't know how we value picks in a Butler deal. I'd think we'd get one pick for Capela from somewhere and not have to throw in an extra first. But that's me.



Guys.......this is NOT doable if we intend to compete for championships. It's not enough. It locks us in as also-rans. No trade flexibility. depleted assets. We're the new version of the 90's Sacramento Kings.

So.....even with limited info.........I am more firmly convinced than ever that we are NOT going to pursue Butler in a Sign-and-Trade after the Saturday. We have to get a Butler opt in and a deal or else we've got to move on to something else. There's too many other opportunities out there to get strapped down with a hard cap and not future trade flexibility for 2 years.

 

Do you really think the Sixers are wanting Horford? Don't tell me what you just read. Tell me whether or not you believe it.