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2020: Is Texas Purple?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by justtxyank, Jun 6, 2019.

  1. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Contributing Member

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    Trump cruises in Texas. Dems - please review 2016's election results and learn a lesson about polling accuracy. TIA
     
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  2. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
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    Uh... that the results typically fall within the margin of error?
     
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    That was before Trump began implementing command style economic policies that run counter to Texas globalist’s economy.

    Last time I checked Texas was kicking those losers in the rust belt asses? Why would Texas want to be losers like them?
     
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  5. Nook

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    He sure as hell better take Texas or he is going to get crushed.

    He loses Texas and he likely loses Florida and Michigan and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

    He would be swept out of office rather quickly losing Texas OR Florida.
     
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  6. dmoneybangbang

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    Math iz hard
     
  7. justtxyank

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    Now that is a really good question...

    Michigan: poll Clinton +3.6, Results trump +0.3
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/mi/michigan_trump_vs_clinton-5533.html

    Wisconsin: this is the really off one: poll Clinton +6.5% Results: trump +0.7%
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/wi/wisconsin_trump_vs_clinton-5659.html

    Pennysvania: poll: Clinton +2.1% Results: trump +0.7%
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/pa/pennsylvania_trump_vs_clinton-5633.html

    So if you want to criticize the pollsters, focus on those in Wisconsin. It also shows how razor slim the trump win really was... less than 1% in the three key states. Now... if we only knew which states russia spent most of their time trying to influence...
     
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  9. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    If the Mexico tariff hits 25% Trump will have to hold rallies in Vidor to get support.
     
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  10. Nook

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  11. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    damn.
     
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  12. Nook

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    I was in Wisconsin in the two weeks leading up to the election. I was on trial and doubled it as a get away with my wife.

    While we were there we noticed little things that lead us to believe that Wisconsin may flip for Trump.

    There were a LOT of homes that had Trump signs in their yard. These were upper middle class homes that traditionally went democratic. Even more surprising was that there were literally no Clinton signs at all. In rural (but just as wealthy) areas there were a lot of homemade signs concerning issues like the economy or immigration and that obviously favored Trump. I asked some people in the affluent area where we were staying about the upcoming election and I mostly heard people say they disliked Clinton or referenced that she did not care about Wisconsin. So the lose of Wisconsin was not a surprise to me.......... another thing to keep in mind about Wisconsin is that it has a strong history of populism and liberalism more inline with what we saw in the 1930's-1940's. They are democrats almost as a tradition. Also, the vitriol and race bating that Trump used has less of an impact in Wisconsin (IMO) as racism and segregation is very much a problem in Wisconsin.
     
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    sure hope you were in trial vs on trial ;)
     
  14. Nook

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    Ha! We actually call in "on trial" here but you make a good point.

    So far I haven't been charged with anything but there are still decades left to get on something.
     
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    my wife is a litigator and she says "in trial," just going by what she says ;)

    good luck with that :D
     
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    Would be the right thing to do...but I don't see it happening. Same thing could be said about Julian Castro. He has no business in the national race and should be doing something statewide.

    I understand this one even less. I don't remember hearing any call for her to run for President. It makes way too much sense for her to run for Senate. Maybe she'll change her mind.
     
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  17. justtxyank

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    In her case she has strong reason to believe she has a VP slot lined up.
     
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    Cruz net approval in TX +2 - Oct 2018 (Cruz won by 2.6%)
    Trump net approval in TX +20 - Jan 2017 (Trump won by 9%)
    Trump net approval in TX +3 - June 2019

    Yes, it's purple... purplish red.

    Being like Beto came up short. You can roll that dice again, but the DEM needs a strategy to generate new voters. ~40% still did NOT vote in 2016 and 2018.
     
  19. leroy

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    I agree. The interesting thing will be if this really is the case going into the general. Forcing trump to spend time and resources in Texas is huge.
     
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  20. Nook

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    This....

    Keep her out of the line of fire so she doesn't say anything stupid.

    Then she can be a VP candidate with little baggage and can take the positions popular at the time of the election.
     
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