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Mosque mass shooting

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by LosPollosHermanos, Mar 14, 2019.

  1. BruceAndre

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    Well, that is the gender that is in charge in political and legal terms, in our society. Moreover, that is the gender that does the selecting, when it comes to mate selection.
     
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  2. Jump Ship

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    The scariest thing in the video was how one lady in the street who wasn’t inside of the Mosque automatically got shot multiple times because of the way she dressed. She was immediately identified as a Muslim to the shooter. While many other ladies and men were not shot, because they were dressed a certain way.
     
  3. MystikArkitect

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    How does it feed division?
     
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  4. HTM

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    Hey @BruceAndre wasn't that you who was talking about broken homes last time we were talking about the mass shooting/gun control issue? Sounds like @Jump Ship has some similar ideas.
     
  5. Amiga

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    Unity, as in having the same ideas? Unity, as one race of people?

    When it comes to ideas, study after study tell us that diversity (competing, multiple ideas) yield the best ideas and results. When it come to people (race and ethnic), similar results.

    Division (as in competing ideas) is healthy, as long as it doesn't lead to unacceptable behaviors. Those unacceptable behaviors, in a corporate environment, is easily controllable - you get the boot if you don't behave appropriately. In a society, we should be holding up to some ideals, ethics , morals, etcs while celebrating our differences and we will end up being a stronger people. I said diverse culture, people, ideas, race, gender, is the much higher and ideal strength for society than a society of like minded, homogeneous people.
     
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    King Cheetah was trolling me. I trolled back. You took that seriously.

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  7. malakas

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    Best results for whom?
    What brings the best results for civilization and progress may bring the opposite results and be a tragedy for the individual. We progress through conflict in the past and now.
    Celebrating our differences to become stronger people? LOL when has that ever happen? A time and place on earth?
    Just an imaginary utopia.
     
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  8. Jump Ship

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    Thats is politics. Just because one is progressive and one is conservative does not mean they cannot share the same beliefs on some issues. The only difference is I think a more progressive system can help these single parent homes get access to psychiatrists (preferably male) and meds if necessary. That is my progressive stance on the issue, and he may disagree there.
     
  9. BigDog63

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    How many Muslims do you know with multiple wives?

    The role of women in a family, and in society, is essentially the same in both. Which is what I was saying. The treatment of women in 'Muslim' countries is not Islamic, it is Arabic---it is societal and cultural, not religious. Your statement doesn't change any of that, or counter anything I was trying to say. Are you just trying to cast stones? We know what the Bible says about that...
     
  10. JayGoogle

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    The truth is this.

    Homogeneity is a complete lie. It doesn't exist and it will never exist. You can't get people to agree on things if they are of the same family, much less of the same 'race' or 'religion' or whatever you want to believe. It just doesn't exist. If this guy got his white ethnostate there would still be political divisions, racial divisions (Yep, even among the same 'race'), divisions among class, divisions among beliefs. It's a purity spiral and no one will ever be pure enough because the world isn't perfect and the very moment this supposed ethnostate ran into ANY problems then the division pops up again and this time it'll be "Maybe the Catholics are the problem..."

    So why is diversity strength? Because diversity preaches tolerance and that's the only way we can ever reach an end game of peace. Diversity takes into account the inevitable differences between people and teaches you to tolerate them and let others be.
     
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  11. Jump Ship

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    Any news on the suspect(s)? Did they catch him?

    This diversity question is silly. The reason diversity is a strength is because it provides different viewpoints and different modes of thinking on issues that one group of people may not consider. In order to get the best answer on something you have to consider the best solutions and weigh which ones have the best advantages. You get that by using the best and brightest minds and because we are all different we get the best answers from different backgrounds and minds that are not wired/nurtured the same.
     
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    Australian, who only went to NZ to "train and prepare" for 2 years
    Chose to stay in NZ (a colony) because it was a "target rich environment"
    Constantly talks about an "invasion" of non-white people (i.e. Muslims) and birthrates and "anti-colonialism"
    Is from Australia, a colony (just wanted to point that out again)
    Thinks Trump is a rallying point for the like minded, yet hates him as a politician
    Loves the environment yet loves the PRC
    Wanted to create a schism, and then a war, around the 2nd amendment in America.

    Sure, @robbie380, he sounds really with it to me.
     
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    They have a bit to do with each other?? yes?

    Islam has a direct impact on their society and is pervasive in almost every way. I may be wrong with what you are talking about though.
     
  14. BigDog63

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    Here's the thing, TDS'ers, this is what you all do. You dance around your racism and bigotry by proclaiming to be for the opposite, when all you really do is unfoundedly stereotype large groups of people and label them with what YOU think they think about everything. Then, when someone finally corners you to admit to that, you go off in a huge rant, as if your diatribe changes your racism any. Your rant about generalities while using them yourself in the rant. You talk about being inclusive while excluding huge groups of people. You then rant about racism and bigotry while displaying it in your rant. You are the least inclusive group, yet somehow think you have somehow have some position to castigate others.

    Awaiting indicated rant...TDS'ers seldom disappoint.
     
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    Does NZ have the death penalty and why even take this dude alive?
     
  16. BigDog63

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    They can be very intertwined, yes. But on the issues specifically mentioned in the post I was replying to, one can look at what the Quran actually says, and see if that matches with with the behavior indicated...and one can also examine the history and culture of that area and see if that is what seems to drive the behavior. For example...were women there treated differently prior to Islam? Is the behavior they receive now indicated in the Quran? The answer to both of those questions, on that issue, is no. Also..do you see that same behavior in non-Arabic places, like Malaysia (the largest Islamic country)? No, you don't. Why? Because that is cultural, not religious.
     
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  17. biff17

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    Why do I need to post anything?

    You are the one making untrue statements.

    Why don't you post all of the states where guns are illegal?
     
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    Sandy Hook.
     
  19. Ubiquitin

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    There is something sinister about how an internet trolling culture ends up in Churches, Mosques, Synagogues, and Schools being lit up for the “lulz” and how it’s being coopted by a subgroup who think that white people and culture are being eradicated. Definitely a very deadly combo. Has this always existed in our US society and it’s just being dragged into the open thanks to the internet and social media? Or are the latter the catalyst? From Anti Vaccine to Flat Earth, the people are not alright.
     

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