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Harden frustrated and mad after game

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Stormy1234, Jan 17, 2019.

  1. slpntz

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    Straight TRASH
     
  2. smoothie

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    all they had to do was foul the nets before they shot the last 3. send them to the line for 2 so they can't tie the game in regulation. the game was won and they let dinwiddie shoot the ball for the tie? why even let him? end the game with a foul and make it a FT shooting contest until time expires.
     
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  3. deb4rockets

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    I don't dispute he is our best player. I do dispute that he could of helped us more by NOT taking 17 3's in all those losses. That is where Rivers, Gordon, or whoever it is that is hot, or wide open has a better chance of making those.
     
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    while i do see some of which you are saying, this doesn't really help the fact that rivers missed a uncontested 3 when harden passed it out of the double to him to potentially give the rockets a 9 pt lead

    it can really go both ways. the rockets are extremely short handed and have been for a lengthy amount of time. harden is taking on the challenge of being super aggressive and hes been on a tear resulting in more wins than not. The losses are frustrating but on the other hand if he wasn't as aggressive, many would be criticizing for him not being so. These teams are scrambling in different ways to put a wall infront of harden, with multiple guys and getting the ball out of his hands in whatever way they can. that dictates a ton of what the rockets are able to do on the floor
     
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    2018-2019 payroll @ basketball reference

    MVB: 30 mil
    CP3: 35 mil (injured for god knows how long)
    Capela: 15 mil (injured)
    Knight: 14 mil (idk this contact is killing us, doesn't even contribute)
    Gordon: 13 mil (injured)
    Tucker: 7 mil (value)
    Nene: 3 mil (every other game play)
    Chriss: 3 mil (legit garbage)
    Antony: 2 mil (cancer garbage)
    Green: 2 mil (spark plug on offense, but garbage defense)
    Ennis: 1.6 mil (scapegoat, we barely paying this fool anything)
    Rivers: best value

    Harden is like a big fking safety net for Morey.

    I would b mad also, busting my ass to put 58 mil and on the bench there is literally no reinforcements coming.

    Rivers and House (g-league now) were a godsend.
     
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    OMG! Are you serious? How can you say his teammates shot like garbage? Maybe they should have taken 19 3's instead of Harden, since they were shooting better from behind the arc last night.

    Gordon .500 (4-8), Tucker .500 (4-8), Rivers .333 (3-9), Green .333 (5-15), and Harden .263 (5-19).
     
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    He should be mad. He could score 80 but it’s fruitless if we cant get a rebound or defend the paint
     
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    I can't fault a guy for missing a 3 when he has shot heads and tails above the rest from behind the arc in all 4 of our recent losses. Sure he missed an uncontested 3, but he averaged .454 from behind the arc in our losses. Nobody else came close to that at all. Maybe if he had simply taken a few more we would have won those games. Who knows.
     
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    This is just as dumb as the ass hats who were saying give it to Dwight more or give it to Clint more they are shooting 65+%!!!!!

    It’s not just that simple to just say let other guys shoot. None of those guys can create a 3 for themselves. It’s all predicated on Harden making the play to get them the shot. Sometimes that’s just not available. Just like getting it inside to CC just isn’t always possible.

    Not to mention there were several plays when they immediately doubled Harden after he crossed half court, leaving the rest of the team 4 v 3 and they couldn’t convert.

    And as has been stated before and even Rivers said basically the same, that Harden is the type of player to where he can go 0-20 and he and his teammates have the confidence the next one is going in. It’s the mentality you have to have to be able to do what he’s doing.

    It’s not like he’s Westbrooking it out there with super shitty efficiency. Harden 66 TS% last night. Rest of team 55% TS.
     
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    i mean it really isn't anyone else's fault. harden made the correct basketball play so to speak. Rivers just missed a wide open shot. that's on him and no one else. It didn't go in. we move on
     
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    We will never agree on this subject.
     
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    Lol.

    This is a professional basketball team, they do not wait to fail at something before implementing something to combat that. They SHOULD already have a handful of plays designed to get their best free throw shooter the ball.

    This team runs next to zero plays most of the time. I would confidently say D'Antoni is just as bad as McHale at X and Os.

    Bolded. See above. D'Antoni doesn't know how to do that.
     
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    If there is no trade the next 3 weeks, it is not Morey's new flaw.

    1. he does not have valuable assets;
    2. market is not good.
    3. biggest reason, does not have any tax budget to add future salary.
     
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    Bro, Luc wanted to stay ...and we somehow rationalized that we couldn't pay him a $4.3 mil ...even though he was one of our most valuable players last year, a top defender with length that could guard multiple positions and shoot the 3 at a high level. Yeah ...we let him walk.
     
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    where is he now?
    right
    on the injury list
     
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    Are you really that delusional? The big picture is that without Harden going supernova this team would absolutely be competing with Phoenix for the dregs of the Western conference. Half of our team is composed of NBA rejects and wannabes, while the other half is sitting on the bench hurt. Meanwhile, Harden is posting numbers that are historic, numbers only the greatest players in NBA history like MJ and Kobe have accomplished. He is leaving his heart out there, giving a 110% effort on offense AND defense and the only player you continue to crap on is him?

    Meanwhile, you continue to fixate on the replaceable parts of the team, players like House that were nothing before Harden and the Rockets helped place in the spotlight. Players, that while decent, are just at best role players, not stars, not all stars, not all-nba. Just that, role players. But, oh no, House is to be treated like the Messiah while you crap on the one actually carrying the team like a cross on his back.

    Your lack of respect and appreciation while straight up lying about Harden's defense is despicable. You need to check your Rockets fandom out the door and go cheer for a team that you respect because the Rockets for years have not been it.
     
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    True but who else kept us close? I didn’t say Harden didn’t have any fault on it. But Green killed us with that stupid play. He just had to let it go. Nothing else to it. You let it go
     
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    Yea Harden missed but he made up for some of it. Did I said Harden had no fault at all? I know how bad he played in the last minutes. But without him, we don’t even get close. Plus he had other plays that helped us. Pj didn’t make many open shot and neither did Green. But I don’t care about those. What bothered me the most was that foul on Allen. He should have just let that play go because the switch was messed up, he was late and he wasn’t going to block it or get the ball. That’s all. Then I picked on pj because he did missed two in a row and one before. If Harden hadn’t rebounded his missed ft we would have lost and no OT. We were just up one and he missed both.

    Harden actually almost had another rebound in OT but he lost it. So Harden did more than Green. And pj plays well but freethrows are easier or should be easier.

    Green did lost us that game. Just like u can’t say Lin didn’t lose us the Portland series. One mistake can cause us the game even if it was a single point. That Green foul cost us that game.
     
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    He's the biggest blowhard on this board. Don't even waste your time
     
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