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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 19, 2018.

  1. Snake Diggit

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    I don’t think the Cardinals would have any interest whatsoever in Reddick. They already have Fowler they are committed to, and Bader, O’Neil, and Ozuna all project to be better than Reddick. They really don’t have many needs, so if they trade Martinez my guess is it would be for prospects or bullpen depth.

    The Indians and Giants are the only teams I could see having any interest in Reddick, but there are too many alternatives on the market (Martinez, Castellanos, Gonzalez, Garcia, Markakis, Pollock).
     
  2. Hey Now!

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    I would guess they didn't want to give up the draft pick for just a year on Grandal.
     
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  3. Snake Diggit

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    Definitely a factor. The pick is probably worth at least $10M to them so $28M/1yr is pretty steep even for a star level player.
     
  4. Joe Joe

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    Fowler was bad last year. Not familiar with O'Neil, but thought he was more a LF like Ozuna that could fake RF in limited stints.

    Braves and Phillies need an OF as well.
     
  5. Madmanmetz

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    I'll take Chirinos for 12,500,000 less and keep the pick. That 12.5 million will get you half way to a really good starting pitcher, all the way to a decent bull pen arm, or 3/4 the way to a solid bat.

    I know I am in the minority but I think Stassi can make the leap this year and I believe management is willing to give him a chance. If he fails they'll find a catcher before the deadline.

    Remember Stassi was decent the first half then he dropped off hard. His road stats were really impressive which makes me wonder if he has trouble seeing the ball at MMP.
     
  6. No Worries

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    The Astros need to add a starting pitcher. That $18M to get a catcher for one year can be used to pay for a SP.
     
  7. Nook

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    Signing Grandal would have seriously limited the Astros financially.
     
  8. Joe Joe

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    Astros need to get Reddick and/or Gurriel off the books. At some point, I expect Luhnow will package a couple of prospects with one of those guys to free up some money.
     
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  9. Snake Diggit

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    Gurriel's salary goes down to $8.4M next season, and he seems to be a pretty integral part of the clubhouse. That combined with his defensive versatility and low k rate makes me think they will just keep him on.

    Reddick and Joe Smith are the 2 contracts they have that are currently bad values. The corner outfield market is still pretty saturated so I think it will be too hard for them to find a taker for Reddick without eating a lot of money or including decent prospects, which would defeat the purpose. I think the most realistic way they can offload Reddick is by including him in a trade for another big leaguer. Sending him to Arizona for Greinke to offset some money, or including him for Realmuto to justify giving Miami the prospect they want might make some sense. But really it's not like he's an albatross; he still projects to be a fine everyday player, just not the borderline star he was 2 years ago and not worth the $26M/2yrs left on his deal.
     
  10. DaChamp

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    Had the Astros signed him, wouldn't the Astros be able to put a qualifying offer on him after this year, and then basically get the pick back?

    Seems like an odd deal to me from Grandal's perspective. If Grandal gets hurt this year (not out of the realm of possibility for a 30 year old catcher), then he walked away from an extra $22M guaranteed from the Mets. And I doubt he is going to improve his worth by doing better this year, as not too many catchers start improving in their 30s. A one year deal makes sense if you are coming off an injury and trying to resurrect your value, but he was healthy and had a good year other than some defensive meltdowns near the end of last year. I like the signing from the Brewers perspective, as there is no long term commitment, which is always an iffy proposition for a catcher in his 30s.
     
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  11. SKYGODZ187

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    Why not

    Josh Reddick and Joe Perez and a Low level Prospect. ASTROS pay 3m for 2019 and 3m for 2020
    To the Braves for
    ADAM DUVALL and Thomas Burrows?

    Or

    Yuli Gurriel, Christian Javier and Framber Valdez Astros pay 3m in 2019
    To the Blue Jay's for
    Marcus Stroman and Leonardo Jimenez?


    Those two trades alone would help facilitate two things.

    White is your everyday 1B
    Tucker is your everyday RF
    Astros save 20m in 2019 and 18m in 2020.
     
  12. SKYGODZ187

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    Why not

    Josh Reddick and Joe Perez and a Low level Prospect. ASTROS pay 3m for 2019 and 3m for 2020
    To the Braves for
    ADAM DUVALL and Thomas Burrows?

    Or

    Yuli Gurriel, Christian Javier and Framber Valdez Astros pay 3m in 2019
    To the Blue Jay's for
    Marcus Stroman and Leonardo Jimenez?


    Those two trades alone would help facilitate two things.

    White is your everyday 1B
    Tucker is your everyday RF
    Astros save 20m in 2019 and 18m in 2020.
     
  13. Redfish81

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    No, a player can only be offered a qualifying offer one time in their career. Grandal probably feels like he can do better next year without the qualifying offer draft pick costs attached to him. He's gambling on being healthy and producing in 2019. Also, the catcher's market after next season is weaker than this year. It will be Cervelli and then guys like Jason Castro, Avila, etc. The Realmuto situation will probably be resolved and Grandal will likely be the best available catcher by a wide margin.
     
  14. Joe Joe

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    I'm thinking the Astros can get Greinke if they can make money work. Reddick and Gurriel would put Astros ~halfway there, though I'm not sure which team Astros would send them (i.e., I think Astros may have to make a trade or two before and separate from Greikne deal to move those guys). I'd put Smith as the third guy as he won't take up a roster spot for half the year, and his contract is only 8 million left.

    If Astros can get Realmuto, that would be great from a production and budget standpoint.
     
  15. Snake Diggit

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    Arizona could use Reddick as a 4th OF. He would be an upgrade over Socrates Brito or Christian Walker. He would also allow them to shop David Peralta and Steven Souza.
     
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    Because Tucker wasn't good. Not saying he's not going to be better, but I am not ready to put that out there as the everyday starter with no back up.
     
  17. SKYGODZ187

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    Tony Kemp.

    You could trade for a Nicholas Castellanos to play DH and be a Back OFer.

    Many Options.
    DEREK DIETRICH
    AVISAIL GARCIA
    Those names are still out there at a much lower price tag then woodick.
    Yuli has been needing to be traded since White showed he could play. Wasted money
     
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  18. Joe Joe

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    It depends on if Arizona wants an OF more than it wants the money.
     
  19. Snake Diggit

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    Well, their real purpose in taking on Reddick is to shed Greinke’s salary and increase the prospect return they get back.
     
  20. houstonstime

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    Because Tucker wasn't good. Not saying he's not going to be better, but I am not ready to put that out there as the everyday starter with no back up.
     

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